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What do you look forward to seeing from the Mariners in 2008?

Yep, that's what the latest (? - I haven't seen it mentioned before, and it's good for a laugh) poll on seattlemariners.com asks. The potential answers?
A World Series ring
Games in October
Thrills in September
A hot summer of baseball
Ask me again at the All-Star break

I can't believe over 20% of respondants pick option A. Wow. There's either some serious optimism brewing, or a lot of people read "Carlos Silva" as "Cy Young" and are looking forward to the dynamic duo of grit as Tug joins Wee Willie.

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Bavasi Fired
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Dec 26, 2007 4:14 PM PST reply actions  

Seconded
Yup, that is my ultimate wish for this season.  

With one condition: the person who replaces him is a decent candidate.  

by Jerry on Dec 27, 2007 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, yeah.
Though anyone new is still going to be more exciting, simply because they'll be less predictable. But yeah, I agree with you.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Dec 27, 2007 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Hargrove --> John McLaren
Let it serve as a warning for all of us.

by Matthew on Dec 28, 2007 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't worry.
I didn't forget. Sigh....
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Dec 28, 2007 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.
And since Bavasi's not exactly at the top of the list of the M's FO's problems, we'd probably get a "proven" GM like Ed Wade or Brian Sabean.  
"I restore a sense of childlike wonder to people's lives; you give them Zunes and Vista." -- Fake Steve Jobs to Borg employees

by PositivePaul on Dec 28, 2007 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Copycats
I know what you mean.  

However, I am hoping that the M's front office will simply copy what is working for other clubs.  

A few years ago, young stathead college-kid GMs were still pretty controversial.  However, look at the success of new-school GMs with teams like Arizona, Boston, Cleveland, and Oakland.  Boston is pretty much the model franchise in MLB, and Cleveland and Arizona went far into the playoffs.  Even the Yankees have gotten smart.  Its not stats versus scouts anymore.  There are more and more clubs who are run by people who know how to evaluate talent, and fewer and fewer 'Baseball Guys' are filling GM positions around the league.  

Its not about reading Moneyball and breaking with tradition now.  Its not just small market clubs or the odd maverick organizagion anymore.  Boston, Detroit, New York (Yanks), Milwaukee, Cleveland, Arizona, Tampa Bay, Texas, Oakland, and Minnesota (just off the top of my head) are all run by younger GMs who are lightyears better at their jobs than Bavasi, and the success of many of those clubs is readily visible.  The best clubs are doing things a lot differently than the M's, and they are advancing deep into the playoffs.  

I don't like Lincoln and Armstrong much, but I have to believe that they would at least be smart enough to look around the league at what is working for other clubs, and simply copy that.  

Every organization wants to have success like Boston and Cleveland.  Hopefully the M's ditch Bavasi and try to import some of that success by stealing away a good GM candidate from one of these franchises.  

But perhaps I am just being too optimistic.  

by Jerry on Dec 28, 2007 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I look forward to something to listen to
on the radio on the way home from work. Other than that, ask me again later after the season has started.
I overvalue prospects

by Thingray on Dec 26, 2007 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

im hopeful for
another "fuck dave samson" moment

by seattlebruin on Dec 26, 2007 9:26 PM PST reply actions  

Felix
Ichiro might be a far 2nd.

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 26, 2007 9:57 PM PST reply actions  

Adam Jones traded for Ted Williams frozen head
Bavasi > Clayton Bennett. IT'S DAMN TRUE

by Vernitis on Dec 26, 2007 9:57 PM PST reply actions  

I could go for a clear, cohesive plan
from the highest executive down to the lowest ranking coach in the minors to build the team into contenders in both the short and long term.

by Jed MC on Dec 27, 2007 7:52 AM PST reply actions  

More Beer Threads.
"I restore a sense of childlike wonder to people's lives; you give them Zunes and Vista." -- Fake Steve Jobs to Borg employees

by PositivePaul on Dec 27, 2007 8:27 AM PST reply actions  

I fixed my post.
More beer.
"I restore a sense of childlike wonder to people's lives; you give them Zunes and Vista." -- Fake Steve Jobs to Borg employees

by PositivePaul on Dec 27, 2007 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Being old enough to take part is in beer threads
I have to put my most painfully ironic Christmas gift to good use.

by Robert on Dec 27, 2007 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Your wife appreciates you.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Dec 27, 2007 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

My wife's only opinions
are the ones I give her while she's making me dinner.

/*caveman

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 27, 2007 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

The Trade Deadline
I am most looking forward to the trade deadline this year, since I can't see any way that the M's are not buried in the standings behind LA.  

by Jerry on Dec 27, 2007 6:43 PM PST reply actions  

You can't see any way....
really?  I'd say that the Angels are about a  90-95 win team.  The M's are probably about 75-85 win team.  I wouldn't be surprised if the M's are in 2nd place behind the Angels and not too far behind when the trade deadline hits.  Probably won't be doing bad enough for the fire sale I know you yearn for.

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 27, 2007 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention that our offseason
is less likely to be over than the Angels. Angels are almost surely done. There's still a chance we make a good move. Two solid moves (Bedard w/o giving up Jones and an OF like Lofton for LF) and we're a 90+ win team on paper.

by Matthew on Dec 27, 2007 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

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