M's news today: 3B Coach finalized & Japanese Pitcher Info

by schwagnah on Nov 6, 2007 10:53 AM PST

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2003996840_webmari06.html

Perlozzo named M's third base coach

Pretty much rounds out the coaching staff, since Bowa pwned McClaren and went to LA instead.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2003995974_mari06.html

Could be some good news here. M's likely to pursue Japanese hurler with Seattle ties.

If the M's can pick up Kuroda as a #3 starter, they would only have to worry about trading for one.. or picking up one. Carlos Silva anyone?

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larry bowa sucks anyways

fingers crossed for Kuroda

by thenatural on Nov 6, 2007 11:02 AM PST reply actions

He's coming around

The throw to the plate is... NOT IN TIME! MARINERS WIN IT! MARINERS WIN IT!

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Nov 6, 2007 11:06 AM PST reply actions

Gotta love Perlozzo pulling a hammy on that play

THE THROW TO THE PLATE WILL BE... LATE! THE MARINERS ARE GOING TO PLAY FOR THE AMERICAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP! I DON'T BELIEVE IT! MY OH MY!

by seattlesundevil on Nov 6, 2007 1:09 PM PST up reply actions

That should be

"I don't believe it! It just continues! My Oh My!" if memory serves :-P

by tworsandtwols on Nov 6, 2007 4:10 PM PST up reply actions

Gotta be a good thing

that his agent is already figuring how Kuroda will look in our rotation.

His age is creeping up there, but no reason not to get him for a few years anyway.

Someone get Richie on a REAL offseason workout plan...NOW!!...*signed: M's fan network.

by Montucky on Nov 6, 2007 11:09 AM PST reply actions

Schilling also is going to resign with the Red Sox

Pettite doesn't know if he wants to pitch again, and declined his option.

And Cleveland is keeping Byrd and Borowski. Maddux is also sticking with our "rivals."

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Nov 6, 2007 11:21 AM PST reply actions

Remember Moyer vs. Maddux?

I'll always have the memories. :(

Willie is ours, and you can't have him

by spittle8 on Nov 6, 2007 12:00 PM PST up reply actions

Our hated rivals, get it straight

by Jordan of Boise on Nov 6, 2007 12:00 PM PST up reply actions

meh on Kuroda

Considering that he has decent control but does not miss many bats, he sounds kind of like the right-handed version of Jarrod Washburn.

by G_ on Nov 6, 2007 11:40 AM PST reply actions

Thank you

I agree. I don't see Kuroda projecting as anything better than a #4.

by Katal LM on Nov 6, 2007 12:21 PM PST up reply actions

I remember when people were saying Igawa would become a #2 or 3 when he made it here. Kuroda will probably be an improvement over what we have, but there's no way he'll make a huge impact. I think all of the imports from the orient this year have a bigger amount of bust potential than many in years past.

Refuse to progress!!

by Double06 on Nov 6, 2007 5:03 PM PST up reply actions

Different type of pitcher.

Kuroda has good command and control, but doesn't strike out many hitters.

Igawa strikes out more hitters, but he walks more hitters.

Kuroda has pitched his entire career in a hitter's park.

visiting A's fan.

by rfloh @ Lookout Landing on Nov 7, 2007 1:20 AM PST up reply actions

Silva?

Hells no.

by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 6, 2007 12:53 PM PST reply actions

Why do some

think Kuroda is going to be a 3?

On our staff - maybe. But that's not saying anything.

by tait644 on Nov 6, 2007 12:59 PM PST reply actions

Don't forget we still need 2 solid starters...

If Kuroda can be the next Miguel Batista, perfect. The guys a 'workhorse' with good/great control. Stash him in the back end or #3. Don't cast a guy off just because he may only be 'solid' rather than great. We can win a lot of games with a decent back-end to the rotation. We still need that power-duo pitcher to complement Felix if the M's want a WS title, but the difference between 88 and 100 wins is in the back end. No question. With todays playoff situation, its pretty clear that having more than 1 dominant pitcher is a necessity.

Kuroda will make our rotation better (in theory) and there aren't many alternatives out there, so lets just sign him and keep our eyes open for the other ace of the staff.

The m's win by simply removing weaver and horam; adding one of Japan's top 5 pitchers would be another victory.

Someone get Richie on a REAL offseason workout plan...NOW!!...*signed: M's fan network.

by Montucky on Nov 6, 2007 2:15 PM PST up reply actions

Good control without missing bats

is the recipe for the next Washburn, not Batista. The problem is tying up the payroll for the next 3-4 years by paying No. 2 starter money for another No. 4 or 5 starter performance.

The M's get the benefit of pitching not-Ramirez and not-Weaver by replacing them with a replacement level pitcher.

Other than his agent, who said Kuroda is one of the best pitchers in Japan?

by G_ on Nov 6, 2007 2:42 PM PST up reply actions

So it's official

Felix is the hardest throwing starter in baseball:

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2007/11/the_bill_james_2.php

Felix Hernandez (95.6) had the fastest heater in the majors last year among pitchers with 162 or more innings.

All despite losing a couple mph off his fastball early in the year.

by chrisisasavage on Nov 6, 2007 2:10 PM PST reply actions

and Burnett is second?

That seems odd. I would have thought that Verlander would take first. I guess maybe sometimes he throws his fastball at slower speeds, which brings down his average.

by vkut79 on Nov 6, 2007 2:45 PM PST up reply actions

wow

"I guess maybe sometimes he throws his fastball at slower speeds, which brings down his average."

Did you do the math yourself? HAHA, chain pulling can be fun.

Someone get Richie on a REAL offseason workout plan...NOW!!...*signed: M's fan network.

by Montucky on Nov 6, 2007 2:50 PM PST up reply actions

I watched Verlander quite a bit

he's one of those guys who changes the speed on his fastball a lot. He lived quite a bit in the low-mid 90's this year, dialing up to the high 90's as needed. From what I can tell, he was able to keep his fastball low and hit the corners more, at least than what I saw last year.

by chrisisasavage on Nov 6, 2007 3:03 PM PST up reply actions

If we sign Kuroda, we don't need another FA

It would be nice if there was a good deal out there, but more than likely there won't be a #2 starter available for a reasonable deal on the FA market. We could do a trade, but I would be fine with just giving RRS or Baek the job out of spring training. They would both be better than Horam, and they would be almost free.

by vkut79 on Nov 6, 2007 2:47 PM PST reply actions