McClaren looking at Charlton or Perlozzo and maybe BOONE or BOSIO

by Slica on Oct 9, 2007 8:02 AM PDT Comment 84 comments

http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/mariners/story/174484.html

Ew.
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John McLaren's formal list of potential coaches includes some of the best and brightest minds in Seattle Mariners history - from former third-base coach Sam Perlozzo to ex-reliever Norm Charlton.
The list of former Mariners coaches and players who'd like to work for McLaren is even longer.

The latter includes Chris Bosio, a Seattle pitcher who spent a year as the pitching coach in Tampa Bay; Lee Elia, a long-time coach, manager and now scout; and a candidate who considers himself a "great coach" - former Mariners second baseman Bret Boone.

"I'm the best coach in my own mind, even though I've never coached in my life," Boone said, laughing. "John is a good friend, and we've talked baseball a lot. Last summer he told me, `You can't play golf every day for the rest of your life, when are you going to get back into baseball?'

"Has he asked me to coach - no. If he did, I'd consider it."

Two men whom it appears McLaren will ask, now that meetings with the Seattle front office in Arizona have concluded, are Charlton and Perlozzo.
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It's September- reruns already?

by eponymous coward on Oct 9, 2007 8:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

This

has been brought up already?

by Slica on Oct 9, 2007 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No.

I mean it's time for 463563 old Mariner coaches and players to show up.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ, people, 1995 was THIRTEEN YEARS ago. Opening day 2001 will be as far away from Opening Day 1995 as it is from Opening Day 2008.

Apparently, though, Lincoln and company have figured it out- the way to keep the fans in the seats is:

spend money. Not spend money wisely, but spend it so you prove YOU CARE!
relentlessly promote people as Faces Of The Franchise- local kids like Willie, longtime Mariners like Raul.
shamelessly milk all the nostalgia for 1995 and 2001 that you can.

Follow these simple steps and you to can draw 2.6 million, while 2/3rds of MLB goes to the playoffs and you don't over a 6 year span!

by eponymous coward on Oct 9, 2007 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

Tell us how you really feel!

I'm never blocking a fire exit.

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2007 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry...

... but the last few weeks is REALLY feeding my cynicism about this organization.

Seeing retread coaches isn't helping. I see Scrappy and an iceberg ahead.

by eponymous coward on Oct 9, 2007 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I understand, my hopes aren't high either.

And then the Seahawks took a dump on Sunday, I'm getting my butt handed to me in my fantasy football leagues, and my team lost both softball games last night, so "sports-wise" I'm totally bummed.

I'm never blocking a fire exit.

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2007 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gotcha

And I agree with everything.

Its amazing that 1995 and 2001 haven't been watered down over this stuff. At least not for me, anyways.

by Slica on Oct 9, 2007 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's my thought

fire McLaren

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Oct 9, 2007 8:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I think we should hire Boone

to give our hitters an extra "boost."

by JI on Oct 9, 2007 8:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

As long as

he doesn't teach them the bat flip.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2007 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like the bat flip

What's funnier than a grown man with frosted hair flipping his bat on a flyball to the warning track?

by JI on Oct 9, 2007 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You had me at

"what's funnier than a grown man with frosted hair". Everything after that was just a bonus.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2007 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

McLaren's new coaching staff

by ThundaPC on Oct 9, 2007 8:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Ha.

You misspelled "everyday lineup".

Plus the guy on the far right looks like a great #2 starter.

by Faux on Oct 9, 2007 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does it matter?

They'll all be gone in 2008 anyway.

by Trent on Oct 9, 2007 9:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I love how this statement is made every year

we just keep incrementing the year by one.

and I by love, I mean it's the partial cause of my drinking hobby.

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2007 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

well

The front office has preached to the media the negatives of too much turnover and need for stability for a franchise to be successful.

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Oct 9, 2007 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

well there's that

(we keep saying so and so will be gone next year and he never is)

but I was actually referring to the:
"who cares? [fill in the blank] will be gone by [current year+1]" template that's been applied to an ever-changing number of managers, coaches, mediocre flotsam, etc.

Funny how few people I actually dread leaving the org: Felix, Ichiro, Beltre, Jones, <strike>Lincecum</strike>, Engle and Fontaine is pretty much it.

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2007 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw that after I posted

No delete button here.

I'd add Putz to that list. And to avoid being called bandwagon jumper, I'm including Triunfel too.

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Oct 9, 2007 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"are pretty much it" not "is"

I cannot add Putz to the list for the same reason Jeff stated in his Yankee Stadium myth post. Part of me is always expecting JJ Putz to completely suck again. Rationally it would make me sad if he left, but it would never have the emotional stomach punch effect that those other people would.

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2007 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've felt the same way

I thought it was just me.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 9, 2007 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only reason I love this statement

Is that it supplies the false hope I need to justify my drinking habit.

And it's used so much it's as cool as getting a tattoo. I like to be on the cutting edge of cool.

by Trent on Oct 9, 2007 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

habit eh?

I'm not so much a fan of that term. Makes it sound like a dependency. I prefer to call myself a drinking enthusiast.

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2007 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

obvious LL line coming in

5.. 4.. 3..

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2007 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you mean Thompson?

Imagine what the speed of lightning would be if it didn't zig-zag...

by PositivePaul on Oct 9, 2007 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know this is off topic, but...

[Oh, GOD, not again]

by eponymous coward on Oct 9, 2007 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay Mr McAsspants....

I'm never blocking a fire exit.

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2007 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your doing it wrong?

by Robert on Oct 9, 2007 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's what she said...?

by BrettJMiller on Oct 9, 2007 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

nevermind

more obscure than I realized I guess. It's sort of a reverse Mitch Hedburg reference.

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2007 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alcoholim is a disease but it's the only disease

you can get yelled at for havin'. 'Damnit Otto, you're an alcoholic; damnit Otto, you have Lupus!'....one of these is not like the other.

Am I close....?

by BrettJMiller on Oct 9, 2007 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I did actually think about that for

the above subthread, but no, here I was thinking about his spiel on boating and wanting to just be called a guy who likes to boat instead of the generic term being a boating enthusiast.

It's pretty much the only time the word enthusiast is used.

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2007 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I got it.

I just wasn't around a computer.

by Jeff on Oct 9, 2007 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what good are you then?

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2007 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry.

Site's yours if you want it.

by Jeff on Oct 9, 2007 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You sound a little burned out Jeff....

I feel the same way about my softball league. Been playing since March (multiple teams up until August), and by this time of year, I'm ready for a break. Thankfully my last two games are tonight if we can force them in during the rain that is falling.

I'm never blocking a fire exit.

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2007 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wooohooo

I'm selling out to Google!

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2007 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

also

you know I'm just giving shit right?

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2007 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Obviously.

Site's mine, bitchtits.

by Jeff on Oct 9, 2007 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If I could say "Bitchtits" to Matthew

I'd be soooo happy.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 9, 2007 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Southpark Reference.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 9, 2007 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well played, tittiesprinkles.

by Jeff on Oct 9, 2007 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha

I get it!

Washington Highways

by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2007 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vidro to hit 35 + HR's confirmed

by Robert on Oct 9, 2007 9:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

MLB.com

says we're looking at MCLEMORE to be 1st base coach. That'd be neat, always thought he'd make a good coach

Washington Highways

by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2007 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He's also Adam Jones mentor

I'm pretty sure that was said anyway. That'd be cool.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 9, 2007 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's right

I forgot they worked together in the offseason.

It would be good to have some coaches who are sympathetic to the young guys

Washington Highways

by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2007 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If he coaches like he plays

He'll be 1B coach, 3B coach, bench coach, hitting coach, Tacoma manager, simulated game manager, roving minor league instructor, and new team mascot after the M's change their names to the Shapeshifting McLemores.

by Gomez on Oct 9, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which would actually be pretty awesome

Washington Highways

by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2007 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another not yet mentioned...

From the Seattle Times... Jim Colborn.

The assumption being that since Tracy was fired from the Pirates, they probably won't be bringing the rest of his staff back.

Colborn is interesting mainly because he brought in quite a few of our higher profile Pac Rim signings when he was a scout for us. Aside from that, I didn't exactly see any solid returns from his time with the Pirates...

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Oct 9, 2007 12:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I love that Buhner quote...

Simply because the paragraph before it I was thinking "What about Bone? He should come coach this team." Doesn't the fact that he believes he isn't qualified for the job make him immediately a better candidate than 90% of the names in that article?

We want the funk! Give up the funk!

by thejew4u on Oct 9, 2007 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Certainly more qualified than Boone.

by Patrick517 on Oct 9, 2007 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Charlton --> Bullpen coach.

Would be fine by me. Not so much as the pitching coach, per se, though.

Imagine what the speed of lightning would be if it didn't zig-zag...

by PositivePaul on Oct 9, 2007 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I should be a little more specific...

Here's a crew I could endorse, although, really, it's no big deal because the pitching coach is probably the most important coach after the manager:

1B: Buhner. Really. Tough. Job. I believe, though, that the 1B coach helps with OF defense and Bone knows a thing or two about that. Plus imagine the sh*t he'd flip the other teams' first basemen...

3B: No opinion. Hell, bring back Perlazzo. I don't care -- we'll probably hate him anyway, so I don't want someone I don't want to hate.

P: Mel Stottlemyre (or however the heck ya spell it). Experienced. Local. Might be interested. Can't say anything negative about him.

Bullpen: Norm Norm Charlton. Love the dude. Seriously, I've had several conversations with him (he seems to be at every event as the "player from the past", and I always get a chance to chat w/him), and I like what he brings. I don't like him being THE pitching coach, per se, because I think there are better, more qualified coaches, but he'd certainly bring a ton of experience to the 'pen.

Bench: Bill James. I'm not kidding, though I know he's clearly not available and 100% counter to what the org would do. The bench coach's role, though, is to be the manager's brain. Let the manager be the 'leader' and manage the players, but let the bench coach manage the in-game <strike>strategery</strike> strategy. Who'd be better???

Strength & conditioning: Boone. 'nuff said.

Imagine what the speed of lightning would be if it didn't zig-zag...

by PositivePaul on Oct 9, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

By your criteria

they should hire Boone for 3B coach. I already hate him, so it wouldn't be a stretch to keep hating him....

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2007 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There ya go, then...

Yeah, since we're relivin' the glory days anyway, might as well be able to answer the common fan's question at the Safe -- "Where's Booney???"

Imagine what the speed of lightning would be if it didn't zig-zag...

by PositivePaul on Oct 9, 2007 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know Bill James's son pretty well

and believe me, Bill isn't going anywhere

Washington Highways

by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2007 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And why should he...

Imagine what the speed of lightning would be if it didn't zig-zag...

by PositivePaul on Oct 9, 2007 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think this response...

was just an excuse to say that you are in some way indirectly linked to Bill James.

district = denmark

by MarinerintheDistrict on Oct 9, 2007 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

Earlier this season I went to a Mariners game with Bill James's son.

So, yeah, I'm just proud

Washington Highways

by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2007 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh yeah! I once saw Bavasi

going into the movie theater and I said hi to him! So there!

"Kruger! My sun tells me, your company shtinks!"-Frank Costanza.

by Coach Owens on Oct 9, 2007 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I once saw John Olerud...

and told him he sucked.

by eponymous coward on Oct 9, 2007 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol.

"Kruger! My sun tells me, your company shtinks!"-Frank Costanza.

by Coach Owens on Oct 9, 2007 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

When properly timed, and not overdone...

...this never gets old.

Never.

I laugh every time...

Imagine what the speed of lightning would be if it didn't zig-zag...

by PositivePaul on Oct 9, 2007 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Every Once in a While

I use it in my daily life, completely out of the context of this website or baseball.

"Can anyone tell me how many paragraphs are in the give paragraph essay?"

"John Olerud Sucks."

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 10, 2007 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was supposed to read "five"

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 10, 2007 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just find it hilarious

This has got to be one of the only jobs in the world that you can get fired from, and then 12 years later get a call saying "Hey, yeah, we want you back."

Washington Highways

by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2007 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

CLINTON 4 PREZ 2012!!!

by Patrick517 on Oct 9, 2007 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Raul Ibanez

Your 2013 1B Coach.

by Slica on Oct 9, 2007 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

3b

Since we have a habit of sticking awful people there.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 9, 2007 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You misspelled 'starting 1B'

by Gomez on Oct 9, 2007 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is so stupid...

This god damn organization refuses to let the good years die. Maybe these guys are all fantastic coaches. I really don't care though. Clearly the ownership believes that having names around that are familiar to the fans will drive ticket sales.

I'd burn the 1995 banner if I had the chance. Take away Safeco and it's probably the worst thing that's ever happened to the M's.

Get the fuck over it already.

by PLU Tim on Oct 9, 2007 4:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs