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Community Projection: Richie Sexson

The second in a non-alphabetical and irregularly updated series of review pieces for each of the players we predicted last winter. (All entries are linked in the left-hand sidebar, below the Rotoworld stuff and the interviews.)

LL/USSM Community: 548 AB's, .260/.344/.512 (n=149)
Actual Line: 434 AB's, .205/.295/.399

Closest Projection: EnglishMariner, .222/.293/.396

Before the year, I had Richie Sexson pegged as a bounceback candidate. I thought it was unusual for that kind of guy to suddenly lose 30 points of OBP and 40 points of SLG out of nowhere, so I figured him for a moderate rebound. As did much of the community - his projected .856 OPS fell neatly in between 2005's .910 and 2006's .842. Only 36% of you thought he'd get worse, and only 10% of you thought he'd end up under .800. In short, the Mariner blogosphere was counting on Richie to be one of our most important run producers in the middle of the lineup.

Funny thing; he wasn't. He wasn't even close. Ten different Mariners came to the plate at least 200 times during the season, and Richie Sexson posted a lower OPS than eight of them. Instead of hanging out with guys Justin Morneau and Derrek Lee, Richie's offense settled in with such illustrious peers as Aaron Miles, Brandon Inge, and Ryan Theriot. Fourteen million dollars doesn't buy what it used to.

In a year of shattered hope, a lot of attention's going to go to Ho Ramirez and Jeff Weaver as being responsible for our falling short of the playoffs, but the bottom line is that this team didn't have a chance as long as its expensive first baseman and intended cleanup batter was struggling to hit .200. It's not that easy to recover when your #1 run producer suddenly turns into a black hole. The Mariners kept waiting and waiting for Richie to snap out of it and carry the offense on his back down the stretch, but he never did, and by the time he was mercifully relieved of his duties it was too late to make a big difference.

With Ben Broussard and his ability to hit right-handed pitchers sitting on the bench, we were told time and time again that Richie is a second-half player, and that he was on the verge of heating up. But as I've said before, you never want to be in a position where you're taking the bad and waiting for the good, because if the good never comes, then you end up looking pretty stupid. Sure enough, Richie's surge didn't happen, and the more impatient Seattle became with the whole embarrassing charade, the more we started to hear some boo-birds dogging Richie in his own ballpark. When you're getting the same Safeco treatment as Player A and Jeffs Cirillo and Weaver, you know you've taken too long a hike down the walls of Shit Canyon.

It's not that Richie didn't have his moments - he had a nice little hot streak in August, for example, including a walk-off bomb against Matt Guerrier - it's that a player of his status is supposed to be remembered for the sheer volume of runs he drives in, not for individual hits. We remember Yuni for all the times he came through in the clutch, and that's cool, because we don't expect Yuni to hit. But Richie Sexson? The fact that we can recall pretty much every situation in which he came up big is an indication that he didn't come up big very often. And that made him an absolutely colossal disappointment.

To be fair to Richie, he suffered from some bad luck. Based on his line drive rate, he should've hit around .230 instead of .205, pushing his final line up to a more respectable .230/.320/.430 or so. Nothing great, but at least it's not Theriot territory anymore. An important lesson to learn from this is that whenever you see a player unexpectedly perform at either one of the extremes, chances are there's a lot of luck involved. By playing worse and getting it in the shorts when it comes to luck, Richie wound up with an almost historically bad batting line for a first baseman. Ugly to watch, but pretty unsustainable going forward.

I'm a lot more confident calling Richie a bounceback candidate now than I was a year ago, because I just can't fathom that he could possibly get any worse. A line drive rate of 14.9% is extraordinarily low and likely to regress closer to the mean, which should push him back into the mid-.200's. Even with declining power, that's still enough to make him a decent #5 or 6 bat. Don't be fooled by his 2007 campaign; Richie can still drive in some runs, and I imagine it'll be a while yet before he calls it quits. After all, he only turns 33 in September.

Still, though, what does that mean for the Mariners? To answer this question, we have to think about what Richie's likely to contribute in 2008. Dave mentioned the "prOPS" statistic today - a measure of what a player's batting line should be based on his balls in play and a standard BABIP - and since it's a decent indicator of future performance, I think it'll serve our purposes here. Richie's "predicted OPS" in 2007 was .820. Not only is that not a black hole; it's actually pretty nice.

But then you have to look at this:

2005: .944 prOPS
2006: .855
2007: .820

...and realize that, even if Richie was the victim of a lot of bad luck last year, he's still firmly in the decline phase of his career. If we're looking at a terrible defender who can only give us a .790-.830 OPS out of first base next year, then that player doesn't have very much value, even if such a performance would represent a huge improvement over what he gave the year before.

If the Mariners want to take a step forward this winter, then Richie Sexson's time in Seattle has to be up. They're not going to trade Raul Ibanez. They're not going to trade Jose Vidro (nor could they if they wanted to). Nor are they going to put Vidro on the bench. So with Vidro locked in at DH, they need to trade Sexson, because otherwise we're stuck with the same comedy of horrors in left field that we couldn't wait to escape all summer long. Richie needs to go and Raul needs to take over at first base. It's just entirely too difficult to upgrade the team into a legitimate contender as long as it's giving away 30-40 runs of defense at two positions. Richie would basically have to flip out and go beyond 2005 levels for that to work, and I don't think anyone finds that very likely.

Think of it this way - if Raul, Vidro, and Richie all stick around, then the only change would be subbing Jones in for Guillen (I'm ignoring whatever happens at second base, because it isn't related). If you call that an approximate wash, then what you're left relying on is 2008 Sexson out-producing 2007 Sexson at the plate.

If Richie goes, though, and Raul shifts to first base, then not only do you get the offensive improvement from 2007 Sexson to our new corner outfielder, but you also upgrade from Raul's "range" to something that's presumably a hundred times better. This is a more substantial improvement. In a winter market that's short on arms, the Mariners need to get better in the field, and shifting Raul to first would make them a whole hell of a lot better.

Late edit: okay, I wasn't 100% satisfied with those paragraphs, so here's a little further explanation. In situation A, you have Raul in left and Richie at first. In situation B, you have somebody else in left and Raul at first. For the sake of simplicity, let's say that Richie and Raul are equally bad with the glove as first basemen. If the new corner outfielder is average defensively, then all he has to be is ~15-20 runs worse offensively than Sexson for us to break even. So if you project Richie to hit like 2007 Adam LaRoche, then the new guy only has to hit like 2007 Melky Cabrera or 2007 Stephen Drew to make sure we're not losing ground. Anything better than that and the move is worthwhile. And if the new guy is, I dunno, Local Boy Geoff Jenkins, who's an above-average defender, then we're probably at least 10-20 runs in the black. Dumping Richie however you can to make room for Raul is the smart thing to do.

Richie Sexson has supplied a lot of excitement as a Mariner, but his best days are gone, and even if he does rebound pretty significantly in 2008, it's just not in the team's best interests to keep him around. So, please, Bill, let this be the last time I have to talk about him at considerable length. With any luck, Richie's career in Seattle ended on September 9th.

Adrian Beltre's contract has always been so much better.

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I'm trying to imagine...
... who takes Richie off our hands.  And I'm stumped.
rightly, in every age it is assumed we are witnessing the disappearance of the last traces of paradise... Cioran

by toonprivate on Oct 30, 2007 9:23 PM PDT   0 recs

Tacoma?
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 30, 2007 9:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Everett? Peoria?
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 30, 2007 9:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Giants are hilarious.
"Goddamn Romans. Sure know how to make a ... drum room." --Matt Cameron

by JI on Oct 30, 2007 10:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, the Giants.
Major League Baseball's public toilet.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 30, 2007 10:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I just want to point out something from before
Richie sucks.  Sucks more than you believe.

From Fangraphs Sexson WPA = -1.29
From Jeff Sexson WPA = -1.21
Avg WPA for qualified 1B (fangraphs) = 2.23

This means that just from the offensive side he's 3.5 wins below average for his position.  He probably cost us at least another run with his defense.  So he didn't quite cost us the playoffs but it was pretty close.

by Edgar for Pres on Oct 30, 2007 10:41 PM PDT   0 recs

Please note
if the Mariners dump Sexson and then pick up someone else and keep Raul in left, then that would totally blow.

by Jeff on Oct 30, 2007 11:41 PM PDT   0 recs

....unless that someone
was Ryan Howard or Prince Fielder.

It's beyond me why they can't see that putting Raul in left murders the pitching staff.

"Goddamn Romans. Sure know how to make a ... drum room." --Matt Cameron

by JI on Oct 31, 2007 7:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ryan Howard is done
He had one great season, but that's basically his career.

by Llewdor on Oct 31, 2007 11:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd risk it.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 31, 2007 11:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So would I.
I'm never blocking a fire exit.

by Thingray on Oct 31, 2007 12:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

umm...what?
you're joking right?

by Matthew on Oct 31, 2007 1:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pujols is done too
He peaked, it is all downhill from here.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 31, 2007 1:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Simply
Richie needs to stop playing baseball, for that matter so does Raul.

by InSpokane on Oct 31, 2007 1:17 PM PDT   0 recs

He did stop
He stopped in March.  It's just taking the M's a while to realize it.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 31, 2007 1:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Again
I don't think I'm the only one. I'd have no problems with Raul hitting DH - it's his fielding that ruins him as a player.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 31, 2007 1:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Knowingly injured
and still had to field, which we know he is terrible at.  If he is no longer fielding, he will no longer be aggravating any injuries. He shouldn't have even been playing injured, but for some reason they decided that was a good idea.

Second half Raul.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 31, 2007 3:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

tend to agree
but there are eery parallels between Raul Ibanez and Richie Sexson just a year apart.

2006 Raul (unexpectedly great) :: 2005 Richie
2007 Raul (bad 1st half, monster 2nd half, possible injury cause) :: 2006 Richie
2008 Raul ??

by Matthew on Oct 31, 2007 3:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Equation
PC'=(PC/(Mm+(I*P))
Where PC = Player Contribution (in this case, offensively only), Mm = Money (in millions), I=Injury and P=Position.

Ibanez at DH lowers the P, causing the I to subsequently drop as well. He costs less, so his Mm is already small. So I would expect a far greater contribution from him based on the fucktarded equation I just completely bullshitted above.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 31, 2007 4:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

just my gut
I really feel like it is a huge gamble to rely on a guy who is about to break down as the teams big RBI man. I can't create a nifty little equation to prove it. That's just how I feel. Besides, is McKidee Mac really just going to DH him? Raul's chemistry is needed on the field to help Ichiro's mental signals.  

by InSpokane on Nov 1, 2007 10:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Please don't give me credit for that equation
That was complete bullshit. I'm sure you can create an equation signifying exactly what you want.  I'll try for you:

Ga=((A+GS)-(Tc))*SpC where SpC>0

Where Ga is God awfulness
A is age
GS is generally suckiness
Tc is Team Chemistry rating
and SpC is Spasming Corpse-ness.

----

As a more legitimate response, I could still see him having one or two more productive years, but only if they take him off the field. He still watches the ball well, and hits with enough power to get doubles, if nothing else.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Nov 1, 2007 10:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Inventing equations can be fun and useful
Here's one, based on the premise that the M's value skill and intangibles equally. It might give some insight on how the organization thinks.

fan friendlyness * quotability * hometownness = intangibles = N
grittyness = G
offensive skill/patience = Mariners adjusted offensive skill = O
defensive skill/50 = Mariners adjusted defensive skill = D

So to arrive at the players overall Mariner aptitude, the calculation is D*O*N*G. I think the Mariners specifically target players with large DONGs.

Clearly the reason Sexson played for so long last year is that he has roughly an average DONG. Jose Lopez has a surprisingly small DONG.... while Raul Ibanez's DONG is massive.

by Nick S on Nov 1, 2007 4:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm....
I've seen you've successfully passed the Basic Understanding Logical Legalities Secret High-Intensity Training course...
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by PositivePaul on Nov 1, 2007 4:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Nov 1, 2007 4:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It must be mentioned
that it's totally appropriate that this entry is at the top of the front page given the site logo.

by Gomez on Oct 31, 2007 2:50 PM PDT   0 recs

I really thought
during most of the year that he would bounce back like adam laroche did for the pirates. Obvisouly he did not make that bounce back despite both of them starting the season in 3 month long slumps

On june 27 both were struggling and had simelar stats, but richies slg% was 100 points better but that was due to richie either getting doubles or homeruns and refusing to hit singles.

AL  .211 .304 .363
RS  .209 .299 .464

At the end of the season laroches numbers were much better as he actually pulled out of his slump while richie actually got worse.

AL  .272 .345 .458
RS  .205 .295. 399

Another couple things that suprised me a bit was that richies ba after his 4th game was .231 and he never got above that during any point during the year. Also he had a ba below .200 for 51 of his 121 games played (i might be a game or 2 off because i was just counting from his game log)

Only it turned out drug dealers and pimps appreciate art.

by wadswerth on Oct 31, 2007 5:04 PM PDT   0 recs

I don't like the idea that a player
"picks it up in the 2nd half."  That's meaningless to me, as what changes? The only thing that possibly changes is that he is now more tired than he was earlier. It should only take at most a month to get back into the mindset of the majors.

My boss and roommate all tried to tell me that he is a 2nd half player, and I didn't understand how I could believe that.  

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 31, 2007 5:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

These are the same people
by the way, that told me right before the 13 game skid, that after loss #6 the Mariners would win 8 in a row because "they always do that after these long losing streaks." What does that even mean? You don't guarantee a win just because you lost 6 times.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Oct 31, 2007 5:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I was thinking about that yesterday
and while I couldn't come up with anything better than "it's easier to hit in warm weather," the fact of the matter is that, for his career, Sexson's OPS goes up 119 points in the second half. Considering we're talking about a ten-season sample size, that's meaningful, even if we don't know quite why.

by Jeff on Oct 31, 2007 5:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Richie's swing mechanics are horrible
He just hacks at shit so its difficult for him to get the timing right.  During the offseason he's a lazy pile of shit and loses all the timing he had.  This means he uses the first half of every year he needs the at bats to get his timing down.  When he does get his timing/swing going, he turns in to a stud.

Thats my best guess.

by Edgar for Pres on Oct 31, 2007 5:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I dont know why
but some players just do better in the 2nd half.  The reason i looked at the lines of riche vs adam wasnt because they both usually pick it up in the 2nd half it was because that up to june 27th both were mired in season long slumps with stats way lower then what either player would normaly do.

I have no idea why or how but you can pinpoint the day adams slump ended (which was june 27th) and he improved pretty much throughout the rest of the season.  He went from .211/.304/.363 on june 27th to .239/.324/.439 at the allstar break and ended at .272/.345/.458 for the year.  Adam not only broke out of his slump but also did what he did the year before and that was have a much better 2nd half compared to his first half.

Between richie historicaly having a better 2nd halfs and the beleif he would break out of his slump i thought his line would get better as season progressed.  But as we all painfully witnessed there was no end to his slumpyness.

Riche did prove that you cant count on a player labeled as a 2nd half player to imrpove their stats just because its the 2nd half of the season, slumps are slumps and they dont care about history or labels.

Only it turned out drug dealers and pimps appreciate art.

by wadswerth on Nov 1, 2007 12:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We cause holes in teeth
We cause holes in teeth.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Nov 1, 2007 12:19 AM PDT   0 recs

They're protecting Toothopolis
with some new gel!

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Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 1, 2007 9:39 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hahaha
this was in south park last night
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by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 1, 2007 4:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ManBearPig
Although "We make holes in teeth" had me laughing for like 10 minutes.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Nov 1, 2007 4:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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