Sexson, and trying to move him?

by eknpdx on Oct 25, 2007 10:08 AM PDT

What exactly is the method to rid ourselves of Richie Sexson?

a. An equal $$ return in bad 1 year contracts that add up to his?

b. An equal $$ return in a contract that is stretched out in more years (like a Dave Roberts from SF)?

c. A trade where we pay off most of the contract for a Jesse Foppert lottery ticket?

d. Just dump his entire contract?

The historical reference for moving such contracts are not all that great (Jason Kendall being the most recent, Cirillo for Jarvis, etc.). I'm curious as to your ideal plan.

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I'd say you just go down that list

in this order:

C
A
D
B

D and B being possibly interchangeable depending on the player

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by Corco on Oct 25, 2007 10:10 AM PDT reply actions

He'll Stay.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Oct 25, 2007 10:11 AM PDT reply actions

I somehow doubt that

Usually when players disappear with phantom injuries, they don't come back

Washington Highways

by Corco on Oct 25, 2007 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions

pardon the comma

pulled a Coach Owens there

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by Corco on Oct 25, 2007 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions

Larry Craig Sucks

Ha! I, amused, myself, with that, one.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Oct 25, 2007 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions

[deleted, wrong bathroom]

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 25, 2007 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions

Larry Craig does suck

never once did I say I liked him.

Washington Highways

by Corco on Oct 25, 2007 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions

It's been a while since I've gotten to make

an Olerud joke.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Oct 25, 2007 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Ho and Weaver came back.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 25, 2007 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions

That wasn't a late in the season phantom injury

They also provided a lot more information about what was going on with those guys

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by Corco on Oct 25, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions

Except Richie's injury wasn't phantom

He spent much of the year playing through a bad hamstring.

by Gomez on Oct 25, 2007 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions

Tendonitis

I don't think I need to say more.

But I'll add that getting rid of him will take about as much work as it will take to get Santana, and while I wouldn't be SHOCKED if the FO ate his contract, I would still be surprised.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Oct 25, 2007 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions

I heard the rumor of the career ending injury

But forgive me for my skepticism.

However, I do agree there has been little discussion through the media about Sexson's rehab.

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Oct 25, 2007 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions

If it came down to any of those 4

I pass on all of them. Here's why:

A. This eats up valuable roster space with more veterans that will just tempt Mac to play. At least Sexson has been benched previously so there's precedent and he only takes up one spot on the active roster.

B. While this does actually reduce the financial burden a bit (inflation and all), it's better to get the financial consequences over and done with so that the (hopefully) new GM has less baggage in '09.

C. Best of the 4, but in this case you're paying the money either way so what's more likely to net you something productive; a Jesse Foppert or Richie Sexson perhaps motivated by a year of failure and impending free agency?

D. WTF the point? Just to get him off the roster? Sure if we had a Ryan Howard being blocked in Tacoma or something, but we don't.

by Matthew on Oct 25, 2007 10:34 AM PDT reply actions

So

The risk in your scenario is taking the chance that Sexson can bounce back to numbers that add value to the offense. In other words you'd rather be gambling on a known commodity over an unknown.

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Oct 25, 2007 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions

I think Richie Sexson

has a better chance of providing value than whatever we can trade for him.

The only reason I see to move him is if you get significant salary relief. Otherwise, what's the point?

by Matthew on Oct 25, 2007 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions

Definition of significant?

That's another hang up for me. What is significant salary relief?

In a vacuum, eating most of Sexson's contract becomes meaningless. I think Hickey from the P-I speculated that $15m is available if Guillen leaves. But say we can add $4m-$5m more to that just by eating a big chunk of Sexson's contract?

Does that become significant, therefor making it worthwhile?(Not considering if there's a player or combo of players worth spending $20m-ish on)

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Oct 25, 2007 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions

too dependent on other things to nail down

but think of it this way, $4-5M buys about 8-10 runs above replacement on the FA market.

by Matthew on Oct 25, 2007 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions

8-10 runs above replacement

For value we should expect a combo of players giving us 24-40 runs above replacement overall for spending $20m-ish?

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Oct 25, 2007 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions

actually, I'd widen the high end

it's roughly between 2-5 runs per mil

by Matthew on Oct 25, 2007 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes, that's it.

And in this 'market', its better than just releasing him.

Someone get Richie on a REAL offseason workout plan...NOW!!...*signed: M's fan network.

by Montucky on Oct 25, 2007 11:21 AM PDT reply actions

Solution:

invent a time machine.
go back to when we placed Richie on waivers late summer.
this time, let the other team take Richie and his contract.
smile with grim satisfaction at having totally screwed another contender, freed up $14 million in salary, created a position void that allows Raul to slip in at 1st and AJ to slip in to LF.

by johnbai on Oct 25, 2007 4:00 PM PDT reply actions

Er...

1.1 Invest in Microsoft
1.2 Try to date Jessica Alba in High School before she became hot and famous.
1.3 Tell Griffey Sr. to make his son drink more milk
2.............

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Oct 25, 2007 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions

you can stop at 1.1

if you have gobs of money you can get pretty much any woman (1.2) and buy your own baseball team (1.3)

by Matthew on Oct 25, 2007 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm pretty sure

rich guys only get sloppy seconds.

by Edgar for Pres on Oct 25, 2007 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Really, really hot sloppy seconds

I can live with that.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by CapSea on Oct 25, 2007 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions

that has not been my experience

by Matthew on Oct 25, 2007 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Since I will never be rich

I'd like to think so.

Timeline of a gold digger:
Is hot.
Gets fucked by everybody cause she's hot.
Gets STD and is getting old.
Knows she is absolutely useless to society.
Starts boning a rich dude so he pays the bills.

Now maybe stupid hot bitches are smarter than I think and realize they can skip getting herpes and just start screwing a rich dude but I'm bitter and hope all these spoiled rich guys get what they deserve.

by Edgar for Pres on Oct 25, 2007 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions

You're describing one of my best friend's mom.

Except it happened like this:

-Is hot
-Got pregnant at 19
-Mooched off of old guy with money to pay the bills
-Divorces old guy and takes half his stuff, finds new old guy to pay bills
-Has 4 more kids, divorces new old guy
-Finds new, new really old guy who won't marry her because he's freakin' rich but will still pay her bills, buy her a $40k Lexus SUV, buy her a new house.

Her new boyfriend is older than her mother's boyfriend for crissakes. And was rich enough to buy my friend his first car, which cost 7 grand.

Refuse to progress!!

by Double06 on Oct 25, 2007 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions

I have just the set of men for this mission

by Robert on Oct 25, 2007 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions

It's gonna take a deep space mission

to arrive in the part of Bavasi's brain (Shaky Veteran Nebula) that could trigger a Richie trade.

Good luck, men and GODSPEED!

Someone get Richie on a REAL offseason workout plan...NOW!!...*signed: M's fan network.

by Montucky on Oct 26, 2007 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions

I throw up at the sight of my own

grammer.
How about 'capable of triggering a richie trade'?

I need my own deep space mission, although, Bavasi's mission is of NATIONAL IMPORTANCE so I can wait till they get back.

Someone get Richie on a REAL offseason workout plan...NOW!!...*signed: M's fan network.

by Montucky on Oct 26, 2007 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions

Years ago

Some friends and I were hanging and trying to come up with alternative Porno titles for popular movies. We got to Armaggeddon, and someone suggested 'Arm and His Head In'.

It gave a totally new meaning to the one-liner, "THAT'S MY FATHER UP THERE!!"

by Gomez on Oct 26, 2007 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions