Can Anybody Think of a Reason Not to Fire Grover Now?

by Alex Johnson on Aug 14, 2006 10:18 AM PDT

I can't. Given the state of the team at this point, wouldn't it make sense to audition Dan Rohn (or anybody for that matter)rather than postpone the inevitable? I don't get the impression that the players like or respect Hargrove, so wouldn't they be likely to respond favorably to the idea that management is not going to tolerate the status quo?

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Firing people is a lot easier in the offseason, both legistically and PR-wise. At this point, the Mariners will just wait and do it then.

There's just not a lot to gain by firing him this close to the end of the season.

by jtopps on Aug 14, 2006 10:53 AM PDT reply actions

Firing Hargrove

At the end of May made sense because there was still a possibility that they could salvage the season and get the most out of the team.

Now though? Well, it's over. Team Hargrove has become the AL West's whipping boy. Better to let Hargrove bury his own grave rather than punish someone else with the after-effects.

This is definately beyond a question of "if". All we need to is answer the question of "when" Hargrove will be fired.

by ThundaPC on Aug 14, 2006 11:13 AM PDT reply actions

I agree with this

If the team tanks down the stretch, you can say he couldn't get the team to respond during a winnable pennant race. Easier to fire him.

by Gomez on Aug 14, 2006 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, if you need a reason to keep him...

I guess you could say the Ms might as well play for the protected draft pick to end the season instead of trying to claw their way up to finishing the year at .500.

They're currently sitting at the 12th pick, but could easily fall down to 7th or 8th by the end of the year.

I'd rather finish the season at .500, but if Grover's going to stick around until the end of the year, some good may as well come of it.

by helfgott on Aug 14, 2006 11:54 AM PDT reply actions

He deserves to stay because

he's taken his team to the World Series before.

Also, he's been a positive role model for his son, Willie.

"I cussed him out in Spanish, and he threw me out in English." Lou Piniella

by Mike Schooler on Aug 14, 2006 3:26 PM PDT reply actions

I bet you Willie

can think of a few reasons.

by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 14, 2006 3:43 PM PDT reply actions

Yes but

nobody can understand what they are because Willie mumbles when his mouth is full.

by kva15 on Aug 14, 2006 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions

I just hope

that the media doesn't label Hargrove a scapegoat.

Jeremy Reed is the worst player to walk the face of the Earth.

by Mariner John on Aug 14, 2006 3:44 PM PDT reply actions

Umm...

...how many of them are swift enough to look deeper?

by rtang on Aug 14, 2006 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Firing Grover

Actually, can anybody think of a good reason for not firing Grover before they hired him?

If you can't outmotivate and you can outthink your opposition, what exactly do you have to offer?

Fire him now and see if Rohn can do the job.

Of course the M's aren't going to win this year whoever they hire, but replacing Grover might mean that Ichiro & Kenji & whoever actually thinks about how to win a game do not have to commit intellectual seppuku on a gamely basis.

We are the holler men, we are the glove men, mouthpiece filled with plug: ptoo!

by Celadus on Aug 15, 2006 4:01 AM PDT reply actions

The past predicts the future...

Check out this petition from 2003: http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/2685.html Everything old is new again. And to think...the M's hired this knucklehead...someone will have penance to do in baseball hell for this.

I killed a 12 pack just to watch it die...

by Dollar97 on Aug 15, 2006 3:48 PM PDT reply actions