Where do we go from here?
Who can we blame for such incompetent manegement of our beloved hometown 9? Hargrove? Sure, we could, but his incompetence is a known quality at this point. We KNOW he's going to give Mateo high leverage innings. We KNOW he's going to mismanage the bench. We KNOW he's going to do his best to be Tonya Harding to Snelling's Nancy Kerrigan. Tons of things, from his long-standing quiet fued with Ichiro to unflagging loyalty given to undeserving players. We know this, baseball knows this, microbes on Neptune's moon Titan know this. So now it's a matter of figuring out who's currently at fault. Is it Bavasi sticking it out for his manager? Is it the ownership group forcing personnel issues? Who knows? But something's got to give.
What can we do? Is it feasable to form a protest? Would any of you show up? I work right next to Safeco and can be there for any kind of orginazed public statement to be made after work hours either weekdays or anytime on weekends. I'm sick of this shit. Someone has to hear how the fanbase feels about this. Fire. Mike. Fucking. Hargrove.
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No one's getting fired
The time for change is long gone. Either the M's storm back and make a serious run at the division title or they lumber on to the finishline. Only then will changes be made.
Buckle your seatbelts.
by ThundaPC on Aug 10, 2006 7:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We can blame the team...
by basebliman on Aug 10, 2006 7:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wrote a letter....
To Whom it may Concern,
Tonight I watched an absolute sham of a game. There were a few things that popped out at me. Namely, why was Pineiro left in for the 7th, given his poor showing in the last half of the 6th, and in the same line, why was Mateo brought in for such a vital situation, given we have three great pitchers ready and rested. This says to me that there is a lack of common sense on the managerial staff.
Far from being an isolated incident, I have seen this type of lack of baseball IQ cost us at least 5 games this season, by turning good leads to sure losses with a series of bad decisions.
On that note, until you fire that incompetent, asleep at the wheel, lousy excuse for a Little League Coach Hargrove, I refuse to watch any more games, attend any games the Mariners participate in, or buy any more Mariners products.
You will not hear from me again, until Hargrove is gone. You may want to check out www.lookoutlanding.com, you will find quite a few (former) fans that feel quite the same way I do, albeit less fed up.
-Chris Davidson
by Faux on Aug 10, 2006 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Heard it before
You should send this to the papers, without that threat. And even though the plug for lookout landing is a nice gesture, it will look like shameless advertising to a newspaper editor. But the paper is going to be read by far more folks than anything you send directly to the club, and like it or not, popular opinion is a big determining factor in whether managers get fired or not.
by poorartists on Aug 11, 2006 5:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
by Greybear on Aug 10, 2006 9:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to disagree.
Yea, we don't score many runs as it is, but having that kind of shit thrown in your face probably isn't going to make you want to try any harder. I can see us getting a couple runs on Tex's shitty bullpen.... but not if everyone gives up on the game.
For the record, I blame Hargrove for that as well. if you go out in the 7th, and don't see any good pitcher come out in the pen for the bottom half, you have to think to yourself, well fuck what the hell am I doing here when he's going to blow it anyways.
I'd like some backup on this, but my gut feeling is a lot more runs have been scored by the losing team in the later innings of closer games as opposed to blowouts. It just makes sense, because it's more mentally competitive as the score is closer.
by Faux on Aug 11, 2006 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yes I'd show
by Garces on Aug 10, 2006 10:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd be there to protest.
by BrettJMiller on Aug 10, 2006 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bring it on.
by nnnick on Aug 11, 2006 12:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He needs to go...
Let Rohn manage out the season. See how the players respond to him and how he does. Then either make it permanent or go get someone else in the off season.
Fire the moron now!
by Dollar97 on Aug 11, 2006 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can count me in
by I'm NOT Corco on Aug 11, 2006 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
me to
by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 11, 2006 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
how about we get
by switch11 on Aug 11, 2006 12:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i would show
by jimmimoose1 on Aug 11, 2006 12:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It needs to be done during a game...
by basebliman on Aug 11, 2006 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it really necessary?
by Jeff Sullivan on Aug 11, 2006 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Necessary, probably not...
by basebliman on Aug 11, 2006 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if he isn't....?
by Dollar97 on Aug 11, 2006 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feh.
Any team that has high level Microsoft officers as owners will NOT be content with being competitive.
Not gauging risk correctly, however, is another story.
by rtang on Aug 11, 2006 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about high level
by I'm NOT Corco on Aug 11, 2006 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HIGH LEVEL
by Deanna on Aug 11, 2006 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take that challenge
Bring it on.
by JLC on Aug 11, 2006 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will be.
by Jeff Sullivan on Aug 11, 2006 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we really so sure?
Anyone want to take that bet? If I lose, I'll either mail you a check or, if you prefer, meet you at the bar of your choice* to spend those ten bucks on beer, where together we can raise our glasses in celebration.
*Seattle bars only. Sorry, Jeff. And you two guys in the UK can just forget about it.
by zagreusmd on Aug 11, 2006 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Transatlantic discrimination!
by Alex B on Aug 12, 2006 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Err, ignore the non sequitur of a post above
by Alex B on Aug 12, 2006 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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