7/4: Open Game Thread, Part 2

I can't believe fucking Mateo is still in.

How does this happen? In a close game even!

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 2:39 PM PDT reply actions

because

Hargrove is stupider than a retarded monkey.

by Slurms McKenzie on Jul 4, 2006 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Shoot me now

ugh.

by bluemax on Jul 4, 2006 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

This is hysterical.

Did anyone NOT see this coming?

Pennant race over.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

Told you

Once the M's started playing AL teams... back to reality.

"...after seeing him for 500 career starts, hitters still haven't figured out a way to consistently pounce on his junk." - Jeff on Jamie Moyer

by Gomez on Jul 4, 2006 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Thank God.

That was the most hilariously awful thing I've ever seen.

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

It's not Hargrove's fault?

My ass it isn't Physioc. Mateo sucks balls.

by bluemax on Jul 4, 2006 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

Mateo sucks

but when he sucks, you lift him, not allow him to get pounded.

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions

What'd that ass-clown say!?!?!

by mfanmn on Jul 4, 2006 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions

He said

it's not Hargrove's fault that he went to the bullpen because the pen had such a good ERA the last month.

by bluemax on Jul 4, 2006 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions

There is nothing wrong with going to the bullpen

there.

It's bringing in fucking Mateo in that situation. Even Fruto has a better chance of gettting out of that jam because he is capable of striking people out.

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions

At least we have Eduardo Perez!

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

Yep, glad to see Hargrove made sure

that all Bavasi traded for was a cheerleader.

Fire Mike Hargrove!

by Goose on Jul 4, 2006 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd like to remind everyone

that Julio Mateo is one of the most extreme flyball pitchers in the history of baseball, and he never strikes anyone out.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:42 PM PDT reply actions

He used to...

..before he got hurt he was featuring a 94mph fastball with lots of movement and posting a 7 K/9. Couple that with good control and a less then 2 BB/9 and you had a successful long relief pitcher.

Now? Hell he's barely posting a 5 K/9. He's useless without being able to miss bats.

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jul 4, 2006 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Mike Hargrove

Good job of putting in the worst possible reliever in the worst possible situation.

YOU SUCK.

by JLC on Jul 4, 2006 2:42 PM PDT reply actions

It turns faster when your manager is retard

shut up Hendu

Wacky, nothing...

by mfanmn on Jul 4, 2006 2:44 PM PDT reply actions

I figure Hargrove has cost us at least 5 games so

far. I WANT TO CONTRIBUTE to a hit team.

by ak james on Jul 4, 2006 2:44 PM PDT reply actions

On the plus side

at least none of us live in Anaheim.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:45 PM PDT reply actions

I thought Hendu was gonna go on another romp

on how National Leaguers were a bunch of incestous pussies.

Fire Mike Hargrove!

by Goose on Jul 4, 2006 2:45 PM PDT reply actions

Lopez K's

Who cares? We can't win with Mike Hargrove at the helm.

by JLC on Jul 4, 2006 2:45 PM PDT reply actions

Remember when Raul and Richie homered?

Yeah, dude.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:46 PM PDT reply actions

Ibanez

isn't going to the All-Star team. It's just not going to happen.

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 2:47 PM PDT reply actions

And Vlad is

with his comically inferior batting line.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions

In Vlad's defense..

It's not his fault he's going to the All Star Game.

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jul 4, 2006 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh, I know.

I just think it's funny that Raul has been a better player than the consensus "Best RF In Baseball."

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions

And of course...

These are the same moron AL fans who voted in Robinson Cano and Mark Loretta over Jose Lopez.

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jul 4, 2006 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Well

Brian Roberts probably deserves it more than Lopez.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions

I never said I agreed with it.

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Ibanez

Way to show patience on borderline pitches and then get fooled by a breaking ball 3 feet inside.

by JLC on Jul 4, 2006 2:47 PM PDT reply actions

So the fans start to pack Safeco again

because the Mariners came home a winning team.

Now they've taken a big crap at home.

So how long before the stadium is empty again?

Fire Mike Hargrove!

by Goose on Jul 4, 2006 2:48 PM PDT reply actions

It'll be a quick response.

The people who came back won't need much convincing that the team still blows.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Worse...

Dave Cameron thinks it's a good thing to win now and rebuild the fanbase, as long as we don't do any stupid moves like Asdrubal Cabrera for Eddie Perez.

My counter arguement is that winning now would only force us to make stupid moves like Asdrubal Cabrera for Eddie Perez. I would rather maintain our ability to win with what we got and keep our depth (as Dave was advocating). But if that means not being in playoff contention, so be it.

I'd rather have a strong showing this year, pick up what we need in the offseason, and start fresh next season primed to take the division. This half assed contention thing because the division is weak is not a good idea.

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jul 4, 2006 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions

You're completely right.

But it's hard to think that way when your team is winning for the first time in three years.

Fortunately we don't have to worry about that anymore.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Right.

Now what we've got to worry about is we have the same sorry team, the same sorry manager, and one less bargaining chip to offer the next time a real opportunity presents itself.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions

I figure one more losing streak

ought to do it. As fans we were all ready to believe that the Mariners had finally put things together, and now they'd be a good team. A bad stretch would expose that for the wishful thinking it now seems to be.

Barring a late-inning rally, we've now lost four of five. This could be that losing streak right here.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions

TV off

by Slurms McKenzie on Jul 4, 2006 2:48 PM PDT reply actions

I don't think

I've heard Safeco fans boo more in a season than in this season.

by JLC on Jul 4, 2006 2:49 PM PDT reply actions

OMG!

A better pitcher than Mateo!

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 2:50 PM PDT reply actions

When we come back and win this game

...wait, I forgot what I was saying.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:50 PM PDT reply actions

I'm glad Hargrove

made Julio Mateo our goto guy in a critical situation............

by ThundaPC on Jul 4, 2006 2:51 PM PDT reply actions

Julio Mateo

has been our go-to guy in every situation every fucking day.

Hargrove won't let Putz throw more than 16 pitches but he's uses Mateo in 5 or 6 consecutive fucking games.

I forgave him for a while since Soriano was injured, but he's healthy now and there's no reason not to use Soriano.

by JLC on Jul 4, 2006 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Hearing the PA guy announce Mateo's line

over the stadium speaker system makes me break things.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:52 PM PDT reply actions

Don't mind me...

I'm just doing my patriotic duty.

Sports And Bremertonians --- http://bremertonians.blogspot.com

by RizzsRolled on Jul 4, 2006 2:52 PM PDT reply actions

Doing a Little Holiday Laundry?

I love the towel. I wish it had a matching "Bavasi Throwing Out Hargrove" companion set.

by kva15 on Jul 4, 2006 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions

A Needed Diversion

In honor of Carl Everett leading off the next inning, I offer the following link:
http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_637311_homophoebic_hotdog.htm?f=media.play=B49FAA5A-DFD7-4CCD-B64 B-B=WMV

Oh, and is this where I get to say that I miss Jeff Harris? The horrible thing is that if he hadn't been sent to Tacoma to make room for Matt Lawton (another fine move), he wouldn't be hurt and would still be contributing.

by kva15 on Jul 4, 2006 2:53 PM PDT reply actions

Jeff Harris

I agree with you, KVA, I miss Jeff Harris too and wish he'd never been sent down and got injured. I hope he comes up north soon.

by BLM on Jul 5, 2006 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions

Does anyone else fear

that Harris is getting the blackball treatment because he's a Mike Marshall disciple?

SWUNG ON AND BELTED! DEEP TO... shortstop....

by Gomez on Jul 5, 2006 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions

Jeff Harris

was simply the victim of a numbers game at the start of the season, then the victim of a cheap and cowardly shot that caused him to be hurt. Jeff is probably hurt more by the perception that, because of his age, he is easy to move around with a low risk of being picked up by someone else. I think the M's are hiding him on the DL now.

I truly believe that if he wasn't hurt, he would have been the guy called up the first time Nageotte came up (remember those 3 hours?), and that would have stopped all of this foolishness of shuttling guys (Nags, Livingston, Fruto, Green) back and forth from Tacoma to Seattle. Jeff would have done the job and that would have put an end to it. If Jeff Harris was not hurt, I believe that Pineiro would be in the bullpen permanently (or traded). He is keeping his job simply because the M's don't have a solution (and maybe because Bavasi reminded Hargrove that if he takes Pineiro out of the rotation, he'll never be able to unload him).

by kva15 on Jul 5, 2006 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions

This club will not compete

until they get a competent manager

by Trent on Jul 4, 2006 2:53 PM PDT reply actions

In retrospect

The Perez trade looks horrible. He only plays against lefties or if we go into extra innings and there is no player left on the bench but him.

Yep, I've changed my name... it should read Gopher Ball Pinieiro instead of Joel Pinieiro.

by Susheel Ramasahayam on Jul 4, 2006 2:54 PM PDT reply actions

Our club lacked a right handed Petagine

by chaney on Jul 4, 2006 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions

We lack a left-handed Petagine.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions

We Lack

Somebody wearing a #21 who can actually contribute to the team winning.

by kva15 on Jul 4, 2006 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Game over.

by JLC on Jul 4, 2006 2:57 PM PDT reply actions

Wow

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 2:57 PM PDT reply actions

And that did it.

I was gonna wait till the game was over to go to the BBQ, but fuck this noise.

I'm outta here.

Fire Mike Hargrove!

by Goose on Jul 4, 2006 2:57 PM PDT reply actions

Jake Woods is so awesome.

I can't imagine where we'd be without him.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:57 PM PDT reply actions

Great

Nice to see us resuscitating the Angels' season. Real neighborly of us.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 2:57 PM PDT reply actions

that was fucking luck

who cares

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 2:58 PM PDT reply actions

So this is how the M's/Angels thing works

The shitty one always dominates the decent one.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 2:58 PM PDT reply actions

Cuban throwing out a fellow Cuban.

by JLC on Jul 4, 2006 2:59 PM PDT reply actions

Watching this game is like picking at a scab.

Or biting down on a cavity.

Any other similes present themselves?

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 2:59 PM PDT reply actions

Spooning with Eddie Guardado.

Living in Anaheim.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions

ewwwww

by Corco on Jul 4, 2006 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Or of course

Spooning with Eddie in Anaheim and biting down on his scab.

Ok, I think I'm gonna be sick.

by kva15 on Jul 4, 2006 3:01 PM PDT reply actions

Wonder how long it takes for the Angels

to pass us and move into 3rd in the division.

by JLC on Jul 4, 2006 3:01 PM PDT reply actions

for all the good it'll do

here's the email I just sent to front office:

Sub: Hargrove is a joke

If he isn't the dumbest manager in baseball history, then you may want to investigate if he is betting against his own club. Today's game looks to be shaping up to be the 2nd game in the last 3 that he has personally given away.

I'm sure I'm not the first, nor the last to tell you this: you need to take a long, hard look at how detrimental he is to the Mariners success.

A concerned fan

by mfanmn on Jul 4, 2006 3:02 PM PDT reply actions

Let's set up an internet petition.

Never underestimate the awesome power of an internet petition.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Green ties

Not a good sartorial choice.

"Friends for Mike McGavin" -- whose friends are these? Are these the Super Friends? If not, why should I care that they're friends?

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:03 PM PDT reply actions

Man

I never anticipated Carl being this bad.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:04 PM PDT reply actions

Why did Everett turn around to bat right-handed?

Just to prove that he can suck from both sides? Or did Gameday make a mistake?

by kva15 on Jul 4, 2006 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't know.

I wasn't watching.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions

He should try a lighter bat

His was designed to be wielded by a sasquatch.

by chaney on Jul 4, 2006 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe one full of cork

At least then if he ever did make contact there would be a chance that he could pull a Sosa, and the M's would be forced to replace him in the lineup for the length of suspension.

Maybe we could all start corking bats and sending them to him....

by kva15 on Jul 4, 2006 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Hit a 7 run home run Choo!

by chaney on Jul 4, 2006 3:04 PM PDT reply actions

You know what I love?

Things that aren't baseball-related.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:06 PM PDT reply actions

Like puppies.

My mother just got a golden retriever puppy. She sent me a picture this morning. It's a tiny little bundle of awesomeness.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Can it pitch relief?

Couldn't hurt.

(wink emoticon)

--Shrug

by Shrug @ Lookout Landing on Jul 4, 2006 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions

It relieves itself all the time

or so my mother tells me.

I'm with you -- it can't hurt. Bring it out every day or two so it can take a dump on the mound, just like Mateo.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Teach it

to shit little donut-shaped turds. Then send Eddie out to the mound after.

by kva15 on Jul 4, 2006 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Why would he want a doughnut?

Doughnuts are a scam! When you get to the middle, where the "doughnut fillet" should be... YOU GET A HOLE! I DON'T WANT A HOLE!

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jul 4, 2006 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Soriano warming up.

How delightfully wasteful.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:09 PM PDT reply actions

Great! Soriano will save us!

Must escape the mercy rule.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:09 PM PDT reply actions

1-2-3 inning!

Eighth inning mojo!

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:11 PM PDT reply actions

I want to believe Moyer will win tomorrow

but chances are that Mateo will come in during the 7th and blow the game.

by JLC on Jul 4, 2006 3:13 PM PDT reply actions

If you're really insane

you could make the argument that, if an offense as terrible as Anaheim's can put up a seven-run inning, so can ours.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:13 PM PDT reply actions

Just to point out...

Our run differential has dropped from 30 down to 16 after this ballgame.

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jul 4, 2006 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Yea

We just gotta figure out which one of their pitchers is like Mateo.

by ThundaPC on Jul 4, 2006 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Angels announcers

still whining about that play at 1st.

YOU HAVE A SIX RUN LEAD YOU IDIOTS!

by ThundaPC on Jul 4, 2006 3:15 PM PDT reply actions

Saturday night

I was really, really pumped about this team.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:16 PM PDT reply actions

A run!

Cue dumbass crowd applause!

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:17 PM PDT reply actions

Hargrove

really did a massive amount of damage to our team Sunday afternoon.

by ThundaPC on Jul 4, 2006 3:18 PM PDT reply actions

Soriano!?

What the hell? What's the friggin' point?

We'll Always Have the Kingdome: Because I'll actually update it now, and I promise it's not that bad.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 4, 2006 3:20 PM PDT reply actions

Soriano?

This game makes me feel stupid.

by chaney on Jul 4, 2006 3:20 PM PDT reply actions

Raffy in to slam the door!

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:21 PM PDT reply actions

If he throws

a (-5) run inning, we're right back in this thing!

by kva15 on Jul 4, 2006 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Soriano!

Thank God he's still alive.

by ThundaPC on Jul 4, 2006 3:21 PM PDT reply actions

Niehaus on the radio as the inning ended:

"Three up and... I beg your pardon. One run..."

by zerojun3 on Jul 4, 2006 3:22 PM PDT reply actions

This team will go back to dominating

right after the All-Star break. Now, we just need to survive and hopefully maintain .500.

by ThundaPC on Jul 4, 2006 3:22 PM PDT reply actions

And your reasoning is?

I'd like to agree with you, I just need some convincing.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Nice route, candyass.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:22 PM PDT reply actions

Wow, that is one fat woman in the stands.

Between her thighs and her mullet, she took up half the screen.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:22 PM PDT reply actions

Anyone got a radar reading on Soriano?

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:23 PM PDT reply actions

Well, they're not hitting him hard...

But I guess this game debunks the Woods or Soriano to rotation rumors... But Grover also refused to state in the post game whether or not Pineiro was still in the rotation yesterday...maybe Cruceta or -sigh- Baek? Anyone but Pineiro, please.

We'll Always Have the Kingdome: Because I'll actually update it now, and I promise it's not that bad.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 4, 2006 3:23 PM PDT reply actions

Hey

14-6

by ThundaPC on Jul 4, 2006 3:23 PM PDT reply actions

Awesome!

Riverowned.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

Embarrassing.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

Well, Ichiro could've caught that if he was

shifted to right...

Still not a good sign.

We'll Always Have the Kingdome: Because I'll actually update it now, and I promise it's not that bad.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 4, 2006 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

I feel sorry for Moyer right now

Going 9.0 innings tomorrow is almost mandatory.

by ThundaPC on Jul 4, 2006 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

Is it my imagination, or is Soriano homer-prone?

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:25 PM PDT reply actions

Not just you.

That's 5 this year. He had three in May, I believe. All within a week, if I recall correctly.

We'll Always Have the Kingdome: Because I'll actually update it now, and I promise it's not that bad.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 4, 2006 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions

He's fly ball-prone.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions

For those watching

is Raffy's speed down? He doesn't seem to be himself.

by kva15 on Jul 4, 2006 3:25 PM PDT reply actions

It looks like he's lobbing it up there.

But MLB.tv won't show me any graphics, so I can't say.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions

I saw 93 at least once.

We'll Always Have the Kingdome: Because I'll actually update it now, and I promise it's not that bad.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 4, 2006 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Hos body English is terrible.

Looks like he doesn't want to be out there. I haven't seen a radar gun reading, though.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions

I know what you mean.

The first thing I noticed when he came in was how disinterested he looks. There's a guy who's ready for the ASB.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions

In a way I don't blame him.

Pitching garbage innings with his talent? I'd be a little pissed, too.

Still, he's being paid more than enough to act like a professional.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Raffy

He's throwing 93-94 mph.

by ThundaPC on Jul 4, 2006 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions

93, 94 on last two pitches.

Pregnancy takes nine months, no matter how many women you put on the job.

by zagreusmd on Jul 4, 2006 3:27 PM PDT reply actions

sigh

I got here late, and now I'm sorry I came.

by Greybear on Jul 4, 2006 3:27 PM PDT reply actions

Run differential...

Down to 14.

And I only point this out because Dave Cameron over at USSM was hyper about our team because we were posting such a high run differential. Nevermind the fact that we hadn't been posting that all year, just as recent as a surging hot June.

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jul 4, 2006 3:28 PM PDT reply actions

Well

+14 is still the best in the division.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 4, 2006 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes but...

The point is that it wasn't sustainable. I don't know what in anybody's mind thought we had the talent capable of posting a +30 run differential. We don't have Oakland's pitching to sustain the divison lead with a negative run diff and we don't have Texas' offense to keep their run diff on the positive side despite their pitching.

There are some things we can do to improve this club without going out and getting Eddie Perez or any other Rent-a-Player. I just hope Bavasi realizes this and digs out the cancers (Guardado, Mateo, Everett, Hargrove) and replaces them with our own replacement level talent.

Christ, they can't do any worse. WHERE'S MY DOYLE?!

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jul 4, 2006 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions