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The M's and Manny

Peter Gammons is reporting that the M's are in the hunt for Manny....maybe we'll see Guillen and others head to Boston...http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2685697

Depending on who we part with, this definately would change my outlook on the off season.

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Guillen can't be part of the deal.

by Egaas on Dec 4, 2006 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe you are correct...
But getting Manny and moving Sexson, while putting Raul at first would work.
I killed a 12 pack just to watch it die...

by Dollar97 on Dec 4, 2006 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah
Wasn't commenting on the deal so much at the Guillen comment.

by Graham MacAree on Dec 4, 2006 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe you can...
...but they have to give their blessing.

There's got a be a rule published on this somewhere, right?

Are we there yet?

by PositivePaul on Dec 4, 2006 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think that's the rule
Basically a no trae clause until June 15th I think.
Willie Bloomquist and Mike Hargrove suck

by Mariner John on Dec 4, 2006 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey
The Mets have signed former Mariners pitcher Clint Nageotte to a minor-league contract, with an invitation to spring training; the Phillies signed former Mets, Indians and Brewers reliever Kane Davis to a minor-league deal; and the Royals signed former Devil Rays No. 1 pick Dewon Brazelton to a minor-league contract.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 4, 2006 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

I'm surprised
Shane Monahan wasn't mentioned in there somewhere.
"I'VE GOT BLISTERS ON ME FINGERS!!"
--Stewie Griffin AND Josh Beckett

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 4, 2006 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatever happened to him?
I killed a 12 pack just to watch it die...

by Dollar97 on Dec 4, 2006 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh.
I miss all those "Where are they now..." featurettes on MLB.com and in the papers.  We're due for one or two here soon.  Dave Hengel? Stan Clarke?  Clay Parker?  How about those guys from the 1987 M's...
Are we there yet?

by PositivePaul on Dec 4, 2006 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do I have the feeling
that a Mariner Manny would be a disaster?

Anyone know what he has left on his contract?  I thought I read somewhere that if he was going to waive his NTC, the receiving team would very likely have to pick up his 3-year option at some ridiculous level of money, like 20-mil per.

by OlyOle on Dec 4, 2006 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know
Manny has the kind of crazy good bat that I would be willing to pay almost whatever he wants
Aici zace un om despre care nu se ştie prea mult.

by Goose on Dec 4, 2006 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I just read that this morning, somewhere.
Manny has two years left, plus two option years.  He'd want the new club to pick up those two option years as part of the deal.

by Tom2000 on Dec 4, 2006 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Manny
If you can get excited about Guillen, you'd have to  be ecstatic about Manny.  He's just daffy, not a consistent malcontent.

Pay a Hall of Fame bat whatever it takes.

We are the holler men, we are the glove men, mouthpiece filled with plug: ptoo!

by Celadus on Dec 4, 2006 3:31 PM PST reply actions  

yeah...
it would be fun to see him in a Mariner uniform - the guy just mashes the ball.  But I just have this sense that he'll be REALLY unhappy by mid-season - along with Guillen.  All the negativity will probably make Ichiro have an emotional breakdown.

by OlyOle on Dec 4, 2006 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

If he's hitting, who cares?
Aici zace un om despre care nu se ştie prea mult.

by Goose on Dec 4, 2006 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, we probably won't have to worry about it...
It is, after all, a Gammons rumor - which is about as solid as a soup sandwich.  

I'll never forgive him for saying Abreu to the Mariners was a "done deal" in 1997 on Sportscenter.  

by OlyOle on Dec 4, 2006 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

We did get Timlin, Spoljaric and Slocumb
so that made up for it.
Willie Bloomquist and Mike Hargrove suck

by Mariner John on Dec 4, 2006 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

hnmm
maybe snelling, brousaard, soriano for manny and cash?

by tkjinak on Dec 4, 2006 3:43 PM PST reply actions  

Heh
Try Adam Jones, J.J. Putz and Feierbrand and maybe the Red Sox listen.

by Trent on Dec 4, 2006 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

No deal if Snelling has to go
also, no cash from the Sox. I think they've been pretty firm on that - they will not pay him to beat up on their crappy starting pitching. I think it will not take that much to get him. Just absorbing his 20,000,000.98 per year is good enough by itself. The prospects would be just to make it look fair. Besides, they need starters, not hitters, so it would be more like Baek, Woods, Soriano, etc etc.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 4, 2006 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Crazy ridiculous three-way speculation
The Red Sox, Mariners and Giants have discussed a deal that would send Manny Ramirez to Seattle, Richie Sexson to San Francisco and J.J. Putz to Boston, according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.
The Red Sox would also receive Adam Jones and Noah Lowry could go to Seattle in one permutation. The Post-Intelligencer believes there's little chance of anything getting done. Still, it's fun to think about, right?

There's your one stop shop right there.

by Egaas on Dec 4, 2006 7:31 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks for ruining my day, Rotoworld
True or not, I don't even want to think about this:

Yahoo! Sports' Tim Brown reports that the Blue Jays, Cubs, Orioles, Mariners and Giants all appear to be willing to go to four years for Gil Meche.
We're more than a little skeptical about this, as there's been no indication that the Mariners have stepped up with that kind of offer to keep him. The Blue Jays appear to be the favorites to sign Meche, especially if the Cubs grab Ted Lilly.

by Corco on Dec 4, 2006 7:48 PM PST reply actions  

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