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More and more, it is looking like Bonds could be the best value on the free agent market.

If you get past the initial reaction to the idea (NOOO!), there are a lot of reasons why Bonds would be a perfect fit for the M's.  

The Mariners badly need a lefthanded power bat, and they also need players who can get on base.  

Bonds fills both needs perfectly.  

Although his final stats for 2006 (.270/.454/.545 with 26 HRs) don't match up with the ludicrous numbers that we have come to expect from the best hitter in baseball over the past decade (~.350/.550/.800 w/ 45+ HRs), there is good reason to think that Bonds still has something left in the tank:

Pre-Allstar: .249/.474/.497
August:  .333/.459/.638
September: .299/.405/.657

When Barry got healthy at the end of 2006, he was putting up incredible numbers.  

All of the scouting reports and information I have been able to find about him suggest that his bat speed and eye are still exceptional.

Everyone talks about how moving him to DH full-time would help keep his legs fresh.  

In all likelihood, you can conservatively pencil Bonds in for .300/.450/.550 for as long as he remains on the field in 2007.  And the upside is a lot better than that.  

The downsides to Bonds are obvious and hugely important.  

First, he is a total douchebag.  

Second, he is a cheater.

Third, he is universally despised.  

Fourth, he will turn 43 next summer.

Fifth, he has knee problems that won't go away.  

Sixth, he has a well-documented reputation as a clubhouse cancer.  

Seventh, he is a total douchebag.  

All important points.  But really, only two of those points have anything to do with Bonds' performance.  

If the M's did go after Bonds, he would create a circus sideshow atmosphere.  About 90% of media attention in spring training and early in the season would focus squarely on Bonds, overshadowing any other good news that comes from the club.  But I do think that the media attention would wane more that people might think.  

The impact on attendance would be tough to gauge.  Everyone loves to see a spectacle, and Bonds is definitely a spectacle.  The M's would draw big crowds for away games, but I am not sure how fans in Seattle would react.  The team would be far less family friendly, but it would be a lot more interesting to watch.  And we would still have Ichiro, Ibanez, and Felix as marketable guys.  

But one thing is really clear to me: if the M's signed Bonds, and he was able to play ~130-140 games next year, he would dramatically improve the offense.  He would help the club win games.  

From a sheerly performance-focused perspective, I love the idea of adding him to the lineup.  Bonds would help fix our biggest weakness - the M's ranked 13th out of 14 teams in the AL in OBP last season - and solve the M's problems with finding a good #3 hitter.  He would also do well in Safeco.  And, as the DH, his horrible defense isn't much of an issue at all (although it would keep Ibanez on the field).  

Finally, Bonds' status as the most hated man in baseball, coupled with his age, will drive down his price.  If the M's could sign him for less than $12 million on a one-year deal, it could be an absolute bargain.  And since there are so few worthwhile things to spend money on this offseason, a one-year deal would be pretty nice.  Maybe throw in an option.  

I dunno.  I am agnostic on this issue.  But the more I think about it, the more sense it makes.  

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Hate the man, love the player.
Sure, he may have cheated, but he's just what the Mariners need.  Sign me up for one with the option of two helpings of Barrold Bonds, please.  If he plays he'll break the HR record, so what the hell, might as well have those bombs landing in Safeco to give us leads insteadn of some place else.

by BrettJMiller on Nov 23, 2006 8:00 AM PST reply actions  

I dont know about you....
I feel if they go after Bonds, that in some way, it will neglect Ichiro. I don't see those two co-existing on the same team.  To us, Ichiro is our  star, the one who we have built a team around.  Barry would come in and want all of that attention.  If this wasn't Ichiro's contract year, I would agree to go get him.  However, with all the recent speculation of Ichiro's hatred of Hargrove and the fact that he could walk at year's end, I would rather have more years of Ichiro than one year of Bonds.

by tkballer22 on Nov 23, 2006 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

I'm all for Barry Bonds
Though I have to think the M's are far behind the A's on the list of teams he'd most like to play for. Hopefully we do land him, so he can teach Willie the wonders of illicit substances. You know, besides Zima.  

by Slozbury Stouvre on Nov 23, 2006 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

Hmmm.
While I have argued that Bonds might be a good idea for Safeco in 2007, I'm well aware of the reality of it actually happening. Put it this way, CHowArmLinStrong is much more likely to approve a trade for Manny Ramirez than to give Bavasi the go-ahead to sign Bonds.  

But, I still can see why Bonds might want to sign with Seattle.  He'd prefer Oakland, sure, but I'm not convinced he wouldn't sign with Seattle, were he offered a contract (with CHowArmLinStrong's blessings).  

I'm also still not sure if I want it to happen.  I'm leaning towards "no" -- too much scandal in this specific case.  My ultimate wish is for no one to sign him and for him to ride off into the sunset leaving Aaron's record intact.  Certainly, though, if he does sign with Oakland, it wouldn't bode well for the M's.  If it's going to happen, I'd rather have it happen in an M's uniform than in Safeco against the M's.

Are we there yet?

by PositivePaul on Nov 23, 2006 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

Yes please
with whip cream and a cherry on top. I don't care if you have to guarantee him 2 years.

by Matthew on Nov 23, 2006 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

attendance
would go up quite a bit while he chased the record.  IF he is healthy he should break it in early june or so.  If the team is winning, that attendance could sustain itself.

by tkjinak on Nov 23, 2006 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

I don't like him
But dammed if he's not ungodly good with the ol' baseball bat. Yes please.

by Graham MacAree on Nov 23, 2006 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

Would he be worth bringing on?
Debatable.  There are good arguments to make for either side of the debate.

However, would he come here?  You can certainly make an offer, though he has stated a preference to remain in California, where he lives.  I'm not sure anyone outside of CA can blow him away with a sweet enough offer to keep him from signing with a CA team.

by Gomez on Nov 23, 2006 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

I'm in the "Yes, Please" category
It would be fun for a season. Either we'd get to love the HR's or we'd have lots to talk about if he went wrong. Kind of a win/win if you ask me.

by anotherjeff on Nov 23, 2006 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

Re: tkballer22
I don't know that Ichiro and Bonds are mutually exclusive on a team. Ichiro is not really your typical high maintenance guy. But of course, they stand for quite different things now. Ichiro, a slight built guy, always stoically striving for excellence (I'm a fan), and Barry, a huge hulking homerun monster who may have eaten some forbidden fruit to step into legendary status.

The cheating/steroids issue with Barry is obviously a huge problem (that you didn't mention in your post), but otherwise they are great baseball players (even without the alleged steroids nobody should deny that Bonds is one of the best, look at the technique on that sweet swing) and great knows great.

I remember a quote from Bonds a while ago, talking about Ichiro and saying (paraphrasing, I don't remember it word for word), "You guys have no idea how hard it is to do what he does. He's extraordinary."

And it's hard to imagine that Bonds is still cheating now. So whatever team gets him would have a "clean" Barry playing for them. I think.

But I don't expect our timid FO to go for it. I just pray he doesn't go to the A's.

by Tom C on Nov 24, 2006 2:53 AM PST reply actions  

Wow
I am surprised that there aren't at least a handfull of people dead set against Bonds.  

by Jerry on Nov 24, 2006 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

I hate cheating,
but I also can't stand this witchhunt against Bonds. It's pure scapegoating.

Giambi wins a comeback award while Bonds' Hate seems to be almost encouraged by the media. With all those hulks and hardbodies and said guys with exaggerated facial bone growth out there, I don't buy that Bonds and the handful of small fry that were actually caught are the only ones cheating.

It's well known that MLB doesn't test for HGH.  They need to seriously work towards finding ways to catch all the cheaters (even if it makes a big stink for a while and severely decreases the homerun numbers). Seems like they dont want to, and are just satisfied with scapegoating Bonds because he's arrogant and unpopular in the first place.

If people were OK with the idea for trading for Sheff for example, I don't see how Bonds is much worse (in terms of the steroid thing).

by Tom C on Nov 24, 2006 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

HGH Testing...
Was instituted at Torino for the first time in the Olympics, IIRC.

HGH testing is pretty difficult, so the MLBPA/MLB seems to have used that excuse primarily.

Detect-O-Vision

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by IcebreakerX on Nov 26, 2006 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Many ballplayers are despicable
Thus, I'm okay with Bonds.  As far as Ichiro goes--well, if he has one of those huge years, he might well enjoy scoring 150 runs ahead of Bonds instead of 105 runs ahead of no Bonds.

Ichiro, Doyle, Bonds doesn't sound bad at all and it gives the hackers following them people to drive in.

We are the holler men, we are the glove men, mouthpiece filled with plug: ptoo!

by Celadus on Nov 24, 2006 11:30 PM PST reply actions  

Let's not forget
that at points, this team had a few known roiders on its 25 and 40 man (Spiroid, Lawton, Morse), so let's not be TOO sanctimonious.

by Gomez on Nov 25, 2006 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

Whats to lose?
Barry Bonds is essentially the only impact player out there that might give the M's a legit shot to the playoffs next year, he's going to draw crowds (even if they aren't exactly there to cheer him :P) he's not going to require a long term bad contract.

What's to lose, are there really better alternatives that might result better long and short term? the M's don't lose a first rounder anyway IIRC due to how badly they played this year. the long term impact even if it doesn't pan out isn't high, and it actually shows the fans and the baseball world that the M's are actually not just a joke also ran. (which is the perception right now) in the short term, what else do we do? signing a Schidmt is nice and all, but the M's also were abosalutely horrid last year in run scoring, and your not going to score more runs next year unless you add a legit bat.

My take, trade Beltre for Brad Penny and see if they would throw in prospects. sign Bonds, sign Schidmt. your upping the payroll by at most 20M this way,  not exactly something the M's can't afford, espically since Bonds will surely mean more crowd, and better record = better earnings.

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by RollingWave on Nov 26, 2006 11:54 PM PST reply actions  

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