Free Agent Over/Unders
Partially inspired by this post over at LSB, I thought we'd play a little game.
Every so often I'll post the names of three free agents, along with the contracts that they might command on the market. You tell me if the years and annual salary are too high or too low (so it'll be a two-part answer). If you think they'll get exactly what I post for either part, just say "right on" or something.
The first three:
JD Drew: 4 years, $12m per
Gil Meche: 3 years, $7.5m per
Jason Schmidt: 4 years, $12m per
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Ok
Yrs: Same
$$$: Over
Meche
Yrs: Same
$$$: Under
Schmidt
Yrs: Under
$$$: Over
by Edgar for Pres on Nov 11, 2006 9:16 AM PST 0 recs
fun
Meche, same, over
Schmidt, under*, over
*I think he gets 3Y guaranteed with a 4y option so I don't know how that will be counted.
by Matthew on Nov 11, 2006 9:27 AM PST 0 recs
Hmm.
by Jeff on
Nov 11, 2006 9:40 AM PST
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Money's flowing like water, so
Meche: same, over
Schmidt: over, over
by abelard on Nov 11, 2006 9:59 AM PST 0 recs
here we go
money- over
Meche: years- same
money- same
Schmidt: years- over
money- over
by MFAN on Nov 11, 2006 10:10 AM PST 0 recs
My take
I don't see him opting out of a 11m/yr contract for 3 years to take on a deal worth 1 million more per season plus one extra season. He and his agent must be looking for a significant upgrade.
Gilberto: Years same, Money over
I remember Fairly saying during a game this year, "Gil's problem is he's just got too good a stuff." The implication being if he ever truly hones his command, he'll be an unstoppable helldemon of a pitcher, exhaling streams of fire out his nostrils and striking out 27 a game. Crazy as it sounds, I think there are GMs out there who actually agree with him.
Schmidt: Years under, Money over
I have to give the GMs (particularly those with alliterative names) at least a little bit of credit. They SHOULD know better than to give a rapidly aging power pitcher a 4+ year deal. Should, of course, being the operative word here. The money's a different story altogether.
by Slozbury Stouvre on Nov 11, 2006 10:15 AM PST 0 recs
Years are dead on, salary over, under, over
by Gomez on Nov 11, 2006 11:24 AM PST 0 recs
GM's are insane...
Meche will get 3 years, totally agree on that, but he'll probably get 8.5-9 million per year. Just a feeling I get with the insane bids for Dice-K, and the numbers thrown around for Zito, that when they go, some team will overpay Meche so they aren't "left out".
Schmidt will most likely only get 4 years, but some GM may actually give him a 5th year option that vests based on innings. Money is going to get nuts, probably in the 13-15 million range because salaries are starting to skyrocket again after a tiny bit of "fiscal responsibility" the last couple years.
The way the market is shaping up, I'd be SHOCKED if the M's picked up anyone of interest through free agency. I'm hoping for a decent trade, but I wouldn't be surprised if our lineup now stays virtually the same, and the rotation gets only someone like Eaton and replacement level guys like Johnson. A big splash for Bavasi would be getting Padilla, and they'd make a big "OMFG what a huge signing" deal out of it. I'm so pessimistic on the team right now, it's not even funny. If this team finishes one-win better next year, they'd say, "look, we improved, everybody stays!" Sometimes, I wish I wasn't addicted to baseball. It only disappoints me in the end.
by basebliman on Nov 11, 2006 12:37 PM PST 0 recs
I'm not sure I'm this bitter
by Gomez on
Nov 11, 2006 12:56 PM PST
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Ok
Meche--Right on (2007's Loaiza)
Schmidt--under/under (5/13)
by Greybear on Nov 11, 2006 12:54 PM PST 0 recs
Hmm...
Years: over
Money: over
(He'll get $70+ million over 5+ years)
Meche:
Years: right on
Money: under
($18M/3)
Schmidt:
Years: right on
Money: over
($50+M/4)
by Trev on Nov 11, 2006 1:05 PM PST 0 recs
I would
by Edgar for Pres on
Nov 11, 2006 5:19 PM PST
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Are you drunk?
by Mariner John on
Nov 11, 2006 5:33 PM PST
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Agree, drunk or not
by Gomez on
Nov 11, 2006 7:08 PM PST
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Stanback wasn't that good
by Edgar for Pres on
Nov 12, 2006 1:04 PM PST
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As they say in Eugene...
At least we pretty much know they suck, unlike the Cougars who can't seem to ever make up their mind and quite often like to COUG IT!!!
by PositivePaul on
Nov 11, 2006 8:02 PM PST
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I have to add
by Gomez on
Nov 11, 2006 10:04 PM PST
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holy crap
A school for the blind could score at least 2! in a 5 weeks
by MFAN on
Nov 11, 2006 10:47 PM PST
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At this point...
Now watch 'em go beat 'em Cougs next week ;-)
by PositivePaul on
Nov 11, 2006 11:06 PM PST
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hehe
by MFAN on
Nov 11, 2006 11:18 PM PST
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Yeah I was pretty drunk and happy I was
On a sidenote, my favorite WSU joke:
Jesus was suppose to be born in Pullman but they couldn't find three wise men or a virgin.
by Edgar for Pres on
Nov 12, 2006 1:00 PM PST
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Very Interesting....
Years: Under
Money: Under
Meche:
Years: Even
Money: Under (Clubs are dumb)
Schmidt:
Years: Even
Money: Under
Boras didn't have drew give up 11m to make one more per...in fact, I think they know something about his health that no one else does...
Meche is one of those guys a GM will take a chance on...let them. He'll go right back to being a shitty pitcher.
Schmidt will get big money because of the limited pool of talent. I think he'll average closer to 15m per, which is scary, particularly if the M's are the idiots who sign him for that...
by Dollar97 on Nov 11, 2006 1:30 PM PST 0 recs
Wait
by Jeff on
Nov 11, 2006 1:40 PM PST
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It is impossible to think....
by Dollar97 on
Nov 13, 2006 7:50 AM PST
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Mine
Meche: Under on both
Schmidt: Under on years over on money
by Mariner John on Nov 11, 2006 1:39 PM PST 0 recs
Mine
Mine: 5 years / 13 million per
Meche: Same on years, Over on money
Mine: Some schmuck is going to give Gil 3 years / 8 million per.
Schmidt: Same on years, Same on money
Mine: A 4 year 50 million dollar contract is probably going to be low, but we'll see.
by TIF on Nov 11, 2006 2:12 PM PST 0 recs
Game On
Gil Meche: 3 years, $7.5m per
Jason Schmidt: 4 years, $12m per
JD Drew: Same/Over
Gil Meche: Same/Over
Schmidt: Over/Under
by ThundaPC on Nov 11, 2006 5:24 PM PST 0 recs
A Meta Question
by NBarnes on Nov 11, 2006 10:54 PM PST 0 recs
In retrospect, yes.
by Jeff on
Nov 11, 2006 11:19 PM PST
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Hmm
over/over
I think that Boras is going to be looking for 5 years. I would guess $13 mil on the per year.
Gil Meche: 3 years, $7.5m per
yup/over
Meche is going to get overpaid this year. I see him getting 8-9 per year.
Jason Schmidt: 4 years, $12m per
yup/???
This is an intesting case. I think that Schmidt will probably be looking at 4 years and $13 mil on the open market. But I have a feeling that he could be one of those rare guys that would except a bit less to play in Seattle or San Fran, or at least another west coast club. If Baltimore and the NY clubs aren't real options, that could push his value down to 4 years, $12 mil or so.
It will be interesting to see how serious his desire to stay on the west coast is.
by Jerry on Nov 12, 2006 6:32 AM PST 0 recs
Of course
Drew:
same years/over salary ($12.5 m)
Meche:
same years/over salary ($8 m)
Schmidt:
same years/under salary ($11.25 m -- turns down a little more elsewhere to stay on the west coast)
by G_ on Nov 12, 2006 11:48 AM PST 0 recs
Wishful thinking
Meche: Less, less
Schmidt: Less, same
by Deanna on Nov 12, 2006 2:35 PM PST 0 recs
I'll play...
Meche: More, more
Schmidt: Same, more
by ConorGlassey on Nov 12, 2006 4:16 PM PST 0 recs
Okay, My turn.
Over, Over
Over, Over
Over, Over
Heh. There.
Free. Agency. Isn't. Free.
In fact,
It. SUCKS!
(Unless, of course, you're the player gettin' the pay day)...
by PositivePaul on Nov 12, 2006 4:34 PM PST 0 recs
Over, Under
- More Years, More Money
Gil Meche: 3 years, $7.5m per
- Same Years, More Money
Jason Schmidt: 4 years, $12m per
-Less Years, More Money
by Justise on Nov 12, 2006 4:48 PM PST 0 recs
Ok, I'll play.
Gil Meche-Over,over
Jason Schmidt-same, over
by Goose on Nov 13, 2006 12:48 AM PST 0 recs
Can't pass on this opportunity
Meche: over/over
Schmidt: push/over
by Trent on Nov 13, 2006 1:25 PM PST 0 recs
Fun games
Meche: push/over
Schmidt: push/over
by Jed C on Nov 13, 2006 1:33 PM PST 0 recs
I think
Meche: push/under
Schmidt: push/over
I think teams will make Drew pay for his disloyalty. It's not like he is such a great player that everyone will be fighting over him.
The good news is that the subject of so many of our annoyances (Meche) will not hit the bonanza he thinks he is about to come into. The bad news is that I believe the team who is going to get him for that "bargain" will be the Mariners. He'll end up getting $20mil over 3 years -- and we'll all get 20 million ulcers.
The extra money the FO makes by re-signing Meche will be spent on Schmidt.
by kva15 on Nov 13, 2006 3:08 PM PST 0 recs
Ouch.
Meche: over, over (4/$8.5m)
Schmidt: even, over (4/$13m) gently weeping for 2010 M's
by Josh on Nov 16, 2006 9:33 AM PST 0 recs










