4/9: Open Game Thread

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 11:40 AM PDT in Seattle Mariners Regular News

Because it's a beautiful day outside, so what better way to spend it than indoors watching a ballgame on TV?

Texas Rangers @ Seattle Mariners

Starting lineups:

Texas:

Soriano 2B
Blalock 3B
Young SS
Teixeira 1B
Hidalgo RF
Mench LF
Allen DH
Matthews Jr. CF
Alomar Jr. C

Astacio SP

Seattle:

Ichiro RF
Reed CF
Beltre 3B
Sexson 1B
Boone 2B
Ibanez DH
Winn LF
Olivo C
Valdez SS

Moyer SP

4:05pm EST start time, with Pedro Astacio and Jamie Moyer taking to the hill. Are we going to see vintage Jamie today, or will it be the Jamie who's determined to send everyone in the bleachers home with souvenirs?

LET'S GO MARINERS!

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Leone up, Mads down

Good for Leone, but the rest sucks. I hope Leone will start at short for now, but I highly doubt it.

by Corco on Apr 9, 2005 12:24 PM PDT reply actions

Is that really the starting lineup?

One thing I don't like about Hargrove is that he never does anything. The same 9 guys every day, except Wilson got a start and Winn/Ibanez flipflopped at DH once.

by Corco on Apr 9, 2005 12:26 PM PDT reply actions

options

Who, exactly, would you like to see in the lineup? Bloomquist? Dobbs?

by ryanhealy on Apr 9, 2005 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Leone

Leone at short would be a good option. Willie earned a start over Valdez at short, too, I think.

by Corco on Apr 9, 2005 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Leone

I don't think Willie earned a start at short by playing center field for two innings.

It'd be nice to see Leone get the start, but we all knew that wouldn't happen.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions

More than anything

I am glad to see Leone back in the Majors with Seattle. I honestly thought he was done after he was optioned a couple days ago. Even if he rides the Tacoma shuttle as the guy who comes up to save better players options, it's good to see him back up.

by Corco on Apr 9, 2005 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Don't get too used to him.

He'll be back on the shuttle in a few days.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to him when Pokey and Bucky are healthy. If the team goes with a five-man bench, then Leone will probably be the 26th man, ready for promotion when someone gets hurt.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Is that really the starting lineup?

That's what I got from Sportsline. The Texas lineup looks right, so I'm buying it, unless MLB or Yahoo shows me something different.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions

MLB Gameday!

HA! It has his Tacoma line! It says he's hitting .333 with a home run and 2 walks this year....

by Corco on Apr 9, 2005 12:47 PM PDT reply actions

ot: stolen A3

The ad that's currently running about the Stolen A3 is pretty clever. It's supposed to look like someone's blog but it's actually an ad paid for by Audi. If you do a whois on the domain the registrant is GMD Studios which touts itself as a 'new media production firm' - basically: Internet ads.

Still, as far as ads go, it's not bad.

by ryanhealy on Apr 9, 2005 1:01 PM PDT reply actions

Re: ot: stolen A3

I was trying to figure that one out myself.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: ot: stolen A3

It's been done before.

by bluemax on Apr 9, 2005 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Bloomquist

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I feel like if this was last year Melvin would put Bloomquist into the lineup based on his one decent night and keep him there for the next ten games.

Not all Mariner Housewives love Dan Wilson. At least not me.

by moira on Apr 9, 2005 1:03 PM PDT reply actions

Mariner Housewife

How long has this page been up?

I just gave it a link on the right.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions

MLB.TV

Nice to see the Seattle broadcast back. Tom Grieve makes me want to swallow my own tongue.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 1:03 PM PDT reply actions

Re: MLB.TV

What, you mean you don't want to listen to him talk about Trading Spaces anymore?

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions

re: MLB.TV

It was nice to hear his favorite show is 24.

I should give Tom a tiny bit of credit, and I did when I originally posted my vitriol for him last not on USSM - he had a nice little bit about starting service time as late as possible to get the most value out of your players when talking about Beltre. It's common knowledge to a BP reader, but nevertheless it's nice to hear from a TV color guy.

He still sucks, though.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions

re: MLB.TV

I think what got me was one of the announcers saying, "Oh, here's a graphic..." and the other guy coming back with "the viewers can read about Mike Young themselves."

It's like these guys don't even want to be on the air. Or at least, not for Rangers games.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions

re: MLB.TV

I'll never forget the first year I got MLB Extra Innings (the first year Time Warner in NYC had it - the second half of 2001 I think) and heard Tom Grieve's voice fo rthe first time. I did an aural double take - "what the hell is that? make it go away!"

I've hated the Rangers ever since.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Moyer's changeup

I think it's faster than his fastball.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 1:21 PM PDT reply actions

re: Moyer

Fairly just made a comment about Jamie that I wonder if anyone's ever looked into. He says that Moyer usually throws more pitches in the first inning since he's feeling out the umpire, trying to figre out exactly where the strike zone will be.

It seems unlikely to me, but I suppose it's possible. Has anyone ever looked for any evidence to back this up (or refute it as the ramblings of a madman)?

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Moyer

I think it's more likely that he throws a lot of pitches in the first because most starting pitchers throw more pitches in the first, before they settle into a groove. But hey, I'm not Moyer, so I couldn't tell you.

I haven't learned anything from the ump so far, for what it's worth. Inconsistent zone.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Moyer

Can't be any worse than last night. Can it?

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 1:29 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Moyer

Was last night really that bad? I thought it was an incredibly enjoyable game.

by Trent on Apr 9, 2005 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Moyer

I miscommented, creating a new thread when I meant to reply. I was talking about the consistency of the umpire's zone, which last night was atrocious, even if helped us with Spezio's walk.

Last night was an enjoyable, if angioplasty-inducing game.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Ahh

Very understandable. Last night's zone was inconsistent, but it contributed directly to the win, so it was highly beneficial.

by Trent on Apr 9, 2005 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Moyer

That wasn't too bad.

by bluemax on Apr 9, 2005 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Aflac Trivia Question

Okay, so is there a history with this whole "Clyde" thing, or what?

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 1:41 PM PDT reply actions

Clyde

Just a name that Neihaus came up with. It went something like this:

Neihaus: I think he looks like a "Clyde".
Fairly: Clyde it is.

by ryanhealy on Apr 9, 2005 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Clyde

Heh.

It's like a bad joke that never goes away, ever.

A lot like Ron Fairly, actually...

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Wilson Valdez

Does not have a good arm.

by ryanhealy on Apr 9, 2005 1:42 PM PDT reply actions

Richie Sexson

Has a good glove.

At least, he did there.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Valdez

I'm impressed with his defense thus far.

by Trent on Apr 9, 2005 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Valdez

I'm not impressed, really, but he's been adequate. With his bat he'd better be a plus defender. He's gotten outs and hasn't made too many mistakes. His range looks decent, although his arm isn't a strength, so it really doesn't matter how far to his right he can get the ball, he's not going to get a lot of outs from deep at short.

He got that one, though, well done.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Moyer

It's like Texas has never seen an offspeed pitcher before in their lives.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 1:57 PM PDT reply actions

Moyer

I'm not complaining, although those walks are scaring me.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 9, 2005 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Gamecast blows...

I hate work.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 2:00 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Gamecast blows...

Use MLB Gameday, if you're not already. It's faster than MLB.tv.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Gamecast blows...

I'll have to check that out...

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Gamecast blows...

I'm surprised you weren't. It's easily the best Gamecast program on the internet.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Gamecast blows...

I didn't know about it because I never have to use a gamecast program. Normally I am either A) at home or B) have a radio.

I don't EVER follow other teams in the MLB on something crappy like Gamecast.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Gamecast blows...

Must be nice to be you.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Gamecast blows...

All I know is that I am not you...that alone puts a smile on my face.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Gamecast blows...

It's going to be a fun trip in June.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Gamecast blows...

Yeah, I set up a tent on my balcony for you.

Enjoy.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Okay, Boone.

There's your token good play. Time to take the rest of the day off.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:01 PM PDT reply actions

What in God's name...

Is that ad on the mainpage advertising?

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 2:17 PM PDT reply actions

Re: What in God's name...

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/comments/2005/4/9/144056/2257/10#10

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Dammit, Boone.

Get a friggin' glove.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:17 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Dammit, Boone.

His day was done last inning.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Nice drive Ichiro...

Machine.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 2:24 PM PDT reply actions

Beltre

Y'know, I'm glad we have this guy around.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 9, 2005 2:27 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Beltre

Me too.

Just wait until he gets comfortable and starts pulling the ball.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Beltre

He just hit a ball that was low and away, looked like a slider.

Nice to see him actually make contact on one of those.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 2:28 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Beltre

I made a note of it.

Beltre's been doing some reading. Heh.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Beltre

You're changing the world.

I saw one replay, and it looked like the ball might not have been as far outside as I'd at first thought. I think he got fooled a bit and ended up reaching for it.

Still a nice piece of hitting.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Sexson...

...that's power.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 2:29 PM PDT reply actions

Uh, Gameday sucks.

It hangs more than Gamecast. Thanks for nothing, Jeff.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 2:31 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Uh, Gameday sucks.

Gameday rules. Go to hell.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Surprisingly...

...this isn't the most boring game of the day.

This one is.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

re: Boring

I'm enjoying watching Moyer, even if I know it doesn't bode well for things down the line. He doesn't have much at all today and he's held a great lineup to two runs through five.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Boring

I wouldn't call it a great lineup; a lot of the Rangers' offensive success is a function of their home park.

Still, Moyer has been fun to watch, if only because he's even closer to the brink in games like this than usual.

I, for one, am glad that we don't have yesterday's excitement right now...

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Incredible.

Sandy f'ing Alomar.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 2:59 PM PDT reply actions

Gameday is hung for the 192nd time today...

What's going on with Blalock?

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 3:08 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Gameday is hung for the 192nd time today...

Heh...

Bottom of the inning. Valdez singled, now Reed's up with one on and two out.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Here we go...

Two outs, so what?

(I'm kidding, I'm kidding.)

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 3:29 PM PDT reply actions

Fever Pitch!

HBP, so what?

I've got Cirillo on the phone. I'll patch him through for you.

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Fever Pitch

This movie insults me as a baseball fan, a sports fan, a Nick Hornby fan, and a human being.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 3:36 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Fever Pitch

It opened last Friday!

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Fever Pitch

So it's been in theaters a week too long already.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Fever Pitch!

The Garces?

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 3:38 PM PDT reply actions

You know it

Yep, and Astacio should have aimed higher.

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 3:43 PM PDT reply actions

Here we go!

Reed will try to bunt, then it's slugger time!

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 3:45 PM PDT reply actions

YEAH!!!!

Sucks about Soriano, but YEAH!!!!!

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 3:46 PM PDT reply actions

WOW

That looked painful on the blurry mlb.tv

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 3:46 PM PDT reply actions

ok maybe not

The replay looked a lot les spainful than I thought. I thought he got clotheslined.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't know about you guys

But I'm liking Valdez.

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 3:47 PM PDT reply actions

Re: I don't know about you guys

I haven't had a problem with him. Not a long-term solution, but he hasn't embarrassed himself.

And welcome to the site.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Valdez

I think he's been an adequate stopgap, which is more than I thought he'd be.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Valdez

Plus, we share the same first name, which is nice.

I've been reading for a while, Jeff. Congrats on the successes.

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Man...

I REALLY HATE WORK.

I want to watch this.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 3:50 PM PDT reply actions

Brocail!

Yay! I love when pitchers that suck come in with men on base and very good hitters coming up.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 3:50 PM PDT reply actions

Beltre

Another ball low and away that Beltre hit - only this time he hit hard. He was all over it.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 3:52 PM PDT reply actions

WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO

Hitting, timely hitting!

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 3:55 PM PDT reply actions

re: hitting

Don't forget pitiful throwing from the outfield. How pathetic was that attempt to get Sexson?

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Sexson...

...that's power.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 3:56 PM PDT reply actions

God, Boone.

Just go away.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 4:07 PM PDT reply actions

Dear lord

Can't one of these be easy?

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 4:08 PM PDT reply actions

Ye gods.

This is all Boone's fault.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 4:10 PM PDT reply actions

GOD DAMMIT.

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 4:12 PM PDT reply actions

Trade Boone?

Anybody ready for Boone to go away? Anybody?

by gumbostu on Apr 9, 2005 4:16 PM PDT reply actions

Jesus

Someone get me those girls phone numbers.

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 4:18 PM PDT reply actions

Well, this is encouraging

When I think "clutch" I think "Dan Wilson."

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 4:20 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Well, this is encouraging

What a worthless at bat.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Can we carry three catchers?

One of the worst ABs I've ever seen.

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm home now...

Sure glad I made it time to watch Wilson strike out and now...Dobbs!

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 4:22 PM PDT reply actions

Beautiful swing, Dobbs.

Ass.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 4:23 PM PDT reply actions

WHAT A SWEET SWING.

WHAT A PLAYER.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 4:24 PM PDT reply actions

Bad Coaching decision

You know, if instead of pinch-hitting for Olivo, Hargrove would have just let him bat, we could have pinch hit for him now in the 9th. Just a thought....hindsight is 20/20 though, but come on, is spezio really an upgrade over Olivo?

by gumbostu on Apr 9, 2005 4:24 PM PDT reply actions

On the plus side

It's always fun to watch Boone trash himself.

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 4:24 PM PDT reply actions

Re: On the plus side

I'LL GIVE HIM SOME HELP

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: On the plus side

Let's hope you swing better than Dobbs.

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey, uh, Reed...

Stop being a pansyass and put a charge into one. One double won't cut it.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 4:26 PM PDT reply actions

Good.

Now...Beltre...BE CLUTCH.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 4:27 PM PDT reply actions

PLEASE BELTRE

DON'T LET IT END LIKE THIS.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2005 4:28 PM PDT reply actions

hmm

It hurts to hope.

by BrianV on Apr 9, 2005 4:28 PM PDT reply actions

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by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 4:28 PM PDT reply actions

I just demoted Guardado

In MVP 2005. Let's hope he enjoys San Antonio.

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 4:28 PM PDT reply actions

What an abortion.

What a horrible horrible game to lose. Thanks, Everyday Eddie.

Go get injured or something.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 4:29 PM PDT reply actions

Re: What an abortion.

I think you got to fault Boone at least as much as Eddie tonight. That was terrible. Honestly, it made me crap my pants. Thanks Boone.

by gumbostu on Apr 9, 2005 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: What an abortion.

Makes me even more surprised that nobody killed Buckner. This is only the 5th game of the season and I was ready to take a bat to Boone's knee.

by Garces on Apr 9, 2005 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: What an abortion.

Hey maybe that way he has to field the ball with one knee on the ground, so no more balls will get on by him.

by gumbostu on Apr 9, 2005 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: What an abortion.

No. I am not going to fault Boone as much as Guardado.

Yeah, he allowed a runner on with 1 out, but he didn't give up TWO 2-run homeruns in the 9th.

He's not being paid $5m to make sure shit like that doesn't happen.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: What an abortion.

If boone makes that out, Blalock doesn't hit a two run homer. That leaves us 6-4 with two outs at worst.

by gumbostu on Apr 9, 2005 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: What an abortion.

And as a pitcher, you have to adjust.

Errors happen, pitchers have to realize that fielders just aren't perfect. In no way, shape or form is this all Boone's fault. Obviously, it didn't help, but Guardado gave up two bombs. One with two outs.

by Devin on Apr 9, 2005 4:43 PM PDT reply actions

Re: What an abortion.

I am not saying this is all Boone's fault, I think he shares a large part of the blame, equal to Guadardo. Without the runner on, the whole dynamic of the inning is different. In a three run game, with two outs and nobody on, Blalock isn't going to look yard. With a runner on and one out, he is. Yeah Guadardo needed to adjust, so he is as at fault too. I am saying that an error in that situation was simply unacceptable and cost us the game as much as Guadardo's pitching did. But alas, we all have different opinions, which makes Baseball such a great sport.

by gumbostu on Apr 9, 2005 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions