Odds and Ends

by david h on Dec 9, 2005 9:29 AM PST Comment 27 comments

Rotoworld has all sorts of interesting bits today:

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"The Rangers have offered Matt Morris a deal believed to be worth about $25 million over three years."

Run awayyyy!!!!

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"Alfonso Soriano said he has no intention of playing outfield for the Nationals. 'I'm going to play second base,' Soriano said."

So the Nat's might have to move him right away. The follow up discusses the possibility of trading Nick Johnson and moving Vidro to 1st. It's hard to think they would fix this problem by trading their best hitter, but after the deals they've made this year and last, I would get on the phone with them right now.

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"A source told the Boston Herald another team that was interested in Andy Marte turned away after the Braves acknowledged the player had a tear in the ulnar collateral ligament of an elbow."

I don't know anything about injuries like this, but is it still such a steal for Boston?

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NJ

Here's hoping Bavasi gets on the horn and inquires about Nick Johnson...

by OlyOle on Dec 9, 2005 9:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Oh, Oh, I like this idea

Nick Johnson, please. I wonder if he could convince the Nationals.

by manyoso on Dec 9, 2005 9:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Personally...

I like Ryan Church.

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by AgentProvocateur on Dec 9, 2005 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Marte

Even if he were forced to miss all of 2006 rehabbing, he'd be back in 2007 as the same guy who tore up AAA as a 21 year old third baseman. Hell, that'd actually make it a little easier for Boston to clean up the Youkilis/Lowell problem.

Edgar Renteria isn't very good. The Braves should be happy if they get a league-average shortstop for the next three years. You never like it when the prospect going the other way is hurt, but even if Marte has to go under the knife, Boston still made out like bandits.

by Jeff on Dec 9, 2005 10:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Ya but Boston

is eating 8 million of the 26 left

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 9, 2005 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

$8 million and unloading Renteria

is well worth the cost of Marte.

by Trent on Dec 9, 2005 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I know

I'm just saying boston didn't get the steal of the Century
and the way the Braves have been winning since I was in elementry school I don't doubt there judgement

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 9, 2005 10:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

But its

Marte!? It's not just some good or potentially good player. He's a potential and a likely star player. The Red Sox gave away an average player, for an excellent one. Potentially of course, but still.

Of course, the tear might be real serious costing him his career.

I'm a real doubter this yr for the Braves. They lost Mazzone too. They unload their top prospect, and get Renteria. Yikes.

by BeltredNOT on Dec 9, 2005 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

and

don't forget no closer, no estrada, and the mets got a lot better.

by Christian on Dec 9, 2005 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

umm

They didn't have a closer last year either.
Brian McCann will outperform Johnny Estrada in 2006
The last part is true.

by Matthew on Dec 9, 2005 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I've been a doubter for a decade

and all they keep doing is winning their division.

"Bo Junior. After my dad. That's just straight redneck-ology, right there." --Blue Jay B.J. Ryan, on how his given name "Robert Victor" became "B.J."

by AgentProvocateur on Dec 9, 2005 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not saying that Renteria won't help

but his contributions over the remaining years of the contract will probably pale in comparison to the 6 years of Marte they would have enjoyed. Fact is, I 'm sure teams would have lined up with better offers and better talent to try and get the young 3B.

by Trent on Dec 9, 2005 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It is about

right here, right now. And the Braves were burned when Furcal left so out of desperation they made a deal for Renteria, a guy with All-Star credentials. Coupled with the fact that the BoSox are eating a huge portion of his contract, I don't see the problem short term. Long term I agree with you 100% but when organizations are desperate they do things like trading away prospects for someone to currently perform (or not) at the ML level (see Jason Varitek) or make boneheaded free agent signings (see prospective signing of Carl Everett).

"Bo Junior. After my dad. That's just straight redneck-ology, right there." --Blue Jay B.J. Ryan, on how his given name "Robert Victor" became "B.J."

by AgentProvocateur on Dec 9, 2005 12:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Also

I don't remeber where I heard this but

I heard that the Rangers are going to try to trade Wilkerson for some pitching

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 9, 2005 10:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I believe it's Mench

but one of their OF's will likely be traded for P.

by Trent on Dec 9, 2005 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I also read

somewhere that they talked with Toronto about both Wilkerson and Mench. Don't remember where. Toronto probably asked about Wilkerson, and Texas responded with Mench.

by david h on Dec 9, 2005 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs