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The Importance Of Depth, And Where The Mariners Stand

This is something I've alluded to several times in the past few weeks, but now that we've hit something of a lull in team-relevant news and rumors in late December, I thought it would be appropriate to revisit the subject at a bit more length.

For the longest time, baseball was about doing two things - hitting and pitching. If you did both of those well, you were going to win a lot of games and make some noise in the playoffs. And that's how it remained for a very long time until quite recently, when DIPS theory and teams like the 2001 Mariners and 2005 White Sox illuminated the value of having a good defense. Baseball is now typically considered the sum product of these three components, and any team that's above-average in each of them stands a real good chance of seeing October.

To me, though, there's a fourth factor that comes into play, one which is very frequently overlooked - the matter of team depth. A lot of teams feel pretty good about their chances in April, but the roster you start with is rarely the one you ride through the summer, and only those teams that are able to make necessary replacements and adjustments on the fly come out looking good in the end.

Although it usually isn't the lone deciding factor, depth can play a significant role in determining how the standings shake out. Rarely is a team able to make it through an entire season without at least one major injury, the way the Mariners did in 2003 or the Indians did this past summer (each team had its own DL stints, but I'm not digging real deep for examples, so just bear with me). Where would the Dodgers have wound up had they been able to find capable replacements for guys like Eric Gagne, Odalis Perez, JD Drew, and a handful of others? Where would the Angels have been without Chone Figgins, Juan Rivera, and Ervin Santana? Would Oakland have won the division with someone better than Scott Hatteberg taking over for the injured Erubiel Durazo? The Yankees had Robinson Cano, Chien-Ming Wang, and Aaron Small hanging around, and all three were vital in helping New York fend off Boston in the East. You get the point. Successful teams have Plan B's in case some part of Plan A goes awry.

For those of you who, like me, need to see some numbers to understand what's going on, consider this:

  • The five starters with which each team entered the season last year made an average of 130 total starts, meaning that (on average) 32 starts, or roughly 180 innings, went to guys who weren't expected to pitch out of that role.

  • Among the 14 AL teams last season, the nine members of the Opening Day starting lineup accounted for an average of 74.7% of that team's total at bats by the end of the year.
(I only used AL lineups because I didn't want to go through the pain of including and excluding certain pitchers from their NL brethren.)

These are significant values. A fifth of each team's starts went to "replacement players" last year. The same goes for more than a quarter of their at bats. In case that fraction doesn't really mean anything to you, last season it was the equivalent of 1484 at bats per team, or approximately nine AB's per game. That's an awful lot of playing time for guys who weren't supposed to start more than a few times a month.

Pretty much every team goes into the year with five starters and nine position players they expect to use for the majority of the season. However, not every team gets the luxury of actually having it work out that way, and if they don't plan for a few guys getting hurt or slumping ahead of time, then as those things begin to happen they'll sink further away from the top of the division. It's an unfortunate fate, one which invariably prompts excuses like "things would've been different if (player) hadn't gotten hit by that truck," but realistically speaking, if one injury is enough to kill a team's chances, then that's the team's own fault. You're not unlucky if injuries hurt your team; you're lucky if they don't. It's all about anticipating the worst-case scenario and making sure you're prepared in case disaster strikes. Anything less is tantamount to crossing your fingers and hoping that those 14 players make it through 162 games relatively unscathed. There's already enough incertitude that goes into building a successful roster, so why add to the uncertainty by ignoring team depth and praying that everyone stays healthy and effective for the duration of the year?

I've said it a few times before, but as far as the Mariners are concerned, I think the team depth stinks. That said, adding Matt Lawton helped a ton - the team could now survive a month-long injury to any one of Richie Sexson, Raul Ibanez, Carl Everett, Jeremy Reed, or Ichiro without losing too much production (although the team would certainly be at least a little worse in four of those five instances). But that's only one player. Behind Lawton, there really isn't much of anything on the position player side; Rivera's going to be a huge dropoff from Johjima, neither Bloomquist nor Morse look like capable infield replacements, and I'm not sold on Choo or Bohn being able to do much of anything in the Majors. I suppose being without, say, Jose Lopez for a few weeks wouldn't be a killer, but anything longer than that and we'd be in trouble, and if - God forbid - two players get hurt at the same time, then we're probably screwed, because that sets in motion a cascade reaction with really bad results.

It doesn't look much better on the pitching side of things. The bullpen's fine - I don't think even Guardado missing the entire season would be much of a concern - but the rotation's a mess, and there isn't much immediate help hanging around. Jeff Harris is probably our top "sixth starter" right now, and he's really not good. Jesse Foppert still has a ton to prove, Clint Nageotte needs to show that he can pitch effectively for more than two innings at a time, and Bobby Livingston and Yorman Bazardo need a lot more work in AAA before we can even think about plugging them into the ML rotation. As interesting as some of these guys may be, right now they're just arms, and hardly represent any kind of quality rotation depth.

This wouldn't be as big of a problem if the Mariners had something even remotely resembling a reliable fivesome of starters, but instead what they have is a 20 year old, a 43 year old, and three guys with injury histories. One of these pitchers is going to get hurt. I don't know who, and I don't know for how long, but we're going to need a sixth starter at some point this season, and none of them are appealing. God help us if we have to squeeze a dozen starts out of Jeff Harris down the stretch. This team, with perfect health, probably stands just a 20-25% chance of making the playoffs; every injury just picks away at that percentage, dragging the Mariners further and further away from being legitimate contenders.

If Felix gets hurt, forget about it. Season's over. There's not really much you can do about that. But Washburn, Moyer, or Pineiro missing clumps of starts here and there will have a negative effect in its own right, and it would be nearly impossible for the Mariners to make the playoffs were that to occur. I don't even want to think about what would happen if we lost two or more players for months at a time. The good news, I guess, is that playing for 2006 was never really the stated goal of the organization, so missing out on the playoffs shouldn't be considered too big of a disappointment, but the possibility is definitely there that we'll be watching Felix mow down opponents in the middle of October. I just wish the depth were a little better, and the odds a little higher.

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Quibbles...
The M's definitely lack depth, but some of your arguements overstate your case.

That the M's have no replacement for Felix is neither surprising nor an example of poor planning. By definition, depth cannot cover for a unique talent.  We could quibble over whether the problem is one of rotation depth or rotation construction, but that would be semantics.

The M's rotation sucks.

Felix is great, but he's 19, has pitched just 85 innings in the show and the M's will be trying to limit his innings.  That's your 5th starter, not your ace.  Yes, he'll probably be the best 5th starter in the last decade, but that still means your rotation lines up as Washburn, Pineiro, Moyer, Meche and Hernandez.  

I'm not imparting any magical status on the #1 starter slot.  Felix is the 5th starter because we still don't really know what we'll get.  Any pitcher is an injury risk.  The risk with him is greater because he is so young.

The uncertainty is greater, too.  Not just about his risk of injnury, but also about his performance.  Those 85 innings were a wonderful, tantalizing preview.  The M's want 180 innings from him this year.  Will he wear out?  Blow his arm out?  Succumb to bouts of wildness?  We can't know.  Less with him than with any other pitcher on the staff.

So, you say the depth sucks.  I say the rotation sucks...they don't really need injuries for it to be a problem.

You missed Chris Snelling.  Ichiro, Reed, Sexson, Ibanez, Lawton, Everett and Snelling play 5 positions.  As long as it's not both Ichiro and Reed or Sexson and Ibanez, two of that group could go down, and the M's would be able to limp along.  I'ld argue that if the right two went down, the M's could be significantly better.

Yes, Snelling is an injury risk, but it appears he will be available to start the season, and he can hit.  He should be counted in the depth.

I understand that you were just pulling some quick "outline the problem" kind of stats, but you should have mentioned that the "32 starts" and "25.3% of at-bats" overstates the case, probably significantly.

Many of those at-bats and starts, maybe as many as half, undoubtedly went to players traded for or promoted specifically as upgrades over whoever started the season.  Some probably went to players who should have started the season, but were injured or rehabbing.

I am sure there are other explanations possible, but the point is that a significant proportion of the playing time you lump together as "replacement time" is probably more properly attributable to "upgrades".

My quibbles should do nothing to shake the premise of your piece.  Depth is important.  The M's don't have it.

Thank you for an interesting and insightful piece.  Even though it depresses me even further.

by ajp on Dec 31, 2005 7:34 AM PST reply actions  

I do agree with a lot of what you say.
There's only so much you can do about Felix. If he blows up, he blows up, and it's practically impossible to replace a guy of his ability for even just a handful of starts. The thing is, the Mariners know that, like the other four pitchers in the rotation, Felix is a risk, and yet they haven't really planned for it. I refuse to believe that Jeff Harris is the best we can do.

I neglected to mention Snelling because, until he gets through a full season without killing himself, I'm not counting on him for anything. At this point, I hardly consider him part of the organization anymore.

And you're right about the 32 starts and 25.3% numbers - there are a lot of different factors that come into play when calculating those, not all injury- or slump-related. That's just the quickest way I could think of to get the kinds of numbers I needed, because deeper research would've taken forever. The numbers themselves aren't really the focus of the piece, so I didn't think it would be worth the several hours of tedious research to refine them.

by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 31, 2005 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

#5 Starter?
Regardless of Felix's age or how many MLB starts he has under his belt, he is our #1 starter.  Your #1 starter is your best starter, and he is it...by far.

by Geeves72 on Dec 31, 2005 9:24 AM PST reply actions  

Yes
Keep in mind that Pedro Martinez was the Rox #1 starter and now the Mets #1 starter, and both teams keep him on a tight leash and rest him at the first sign of trouble, Grady Little incident aside.

by Gomez on Dec 31, 2005 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I was concerned...
...that some folks would just look at the #5 starter part and ignore the explanation.

Yes, if Felix were a proven commodity, he would be the M's, and nearly any other teams, #1.

If.

He has pitched 85 big league innings.  He is 19-years old.  There are still a number of things that could go wrong with his ascent to stardom.  

He could break down, blow up, or wear out.  He is at greater risk for all of these things becaue he is young and not fully tested.  In addition, the M's have stated that they intend to limit his innings...which I think is prudent as far as it goes.  I would restrict his innings by limiting his pitch count.

My number 1 starter is the guy that I expect to carry the team through rough spots and down the stretch.  Asking that of a 19-year-old is just begging for trouble...most likely in the form of breaking down, blowing up or wearing out.

Maybe Felix can handle the extra load and pressure, and the M's can win an extra game or two this year.  Is it worth it?

by ajp on Dec 31, 2005 10:09 AM PST reply actions  

I think you could argue that
Harris is a pretty good 6th pitcher but I agree that our rotation is just waiting to fall apart.  If they can stay moderately healthy, I think that they would do decently.  Felix probably goes 17-8 (I hope) with ERA of 3.20, Moyer 10-10 5.10, Washburn 12-8 3.99, Pineiro 16-10 3.90, Meche 8-6 4.70, Harris 1-3 4.50.

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 31, 2005 10:28 AM PST reply actions  

Harris
Harris isn't even on the roster anymore.  

by Jerry on Dec 31, 2005 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

He will be.
He cleared waivers, and will be back in Seattle before too long.

by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 31, 2005 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Too Rough on Harris
Jeff,
This won't be the first time you've heard this from me, but I think you are too rough on Harris. Give him a chance coming back this year before you pronounce him "not good." Jeff's history (going back to when he was 9 years old) is that he is a great learner and he adjusts well. He is a smart ballplayer who fairly evaluates his performances, learns from his mistakes, and works harder than anyone you've ever known to get better.

Give him a shot... and I hope the M's do, too.

Other than that, you're assessment of the Mariners' depth, and what it is likely to cost them, is right on!

by kva15 on Dec 31, 2005 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice work
This is really well done.  

The only thing that I would add to this is the lack of depth at the upper levels of the farm system.  

Since the M's have promoted so many young players, they don't really have many advanced prospects ready to come up in the event of injury.  

They have plenty of relievers, but the only other players that I can see coming up and helping the club from Tacoma are Hunter Brown, TJ Bohn (if he doesn't make the club), and Snelling (if healthy).  That is pretty thin.  

I hope that the M's can still add an interesting player or two for depth before spring.  They will obviously have a lot of NRI's, but it would be cool to see them sign somebody like Erubiel Durazo, Brian Anderson, Byung Hyung Kim, or Kaz Ishii.  These guys should all be relatively cheap, and would add depth to the M's roster.  

by Jerry on Dec 31, 2005 10:39 AM PST reply actions  

Incidentally
I'm a bit of a Brian Anderson fan myself, but he's signing with Texas.

by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 31, 2005 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Obviously
Of course he is.  

I wish that the M's had the financial resources, winning tradition, and favorable home park to attract free agent pitchers like the Rangers do.  

by Jerry on Dec 31, 2005 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

We'd all like to see
more depth and I'm still puzzled over the complete lack of interest in BH Kim who would be PERFECT (IMO) as a 6th starter/bullpen guy since he's a guy who can start 20+ games.

And yeah, we'd like to see another bench bat (cough Hee Sop Choi cough), but that's where I think (hope) the Ms wont need too much compared to the average. As ajp stated, the numbers are overblown. When you account for callups (we shouldn't count Felix's promotion in August against team depth just because he wasn't a scheduled starter in April), trades, scheduled days off, minor slumps et all, the ABs lost to injury is probably more like 600 or so, one lineup spot. Just my guess though. That still seems like more than the Ms can take, but the 600 or so is the average of the ML and the Ms are going to be fielding a much younger than average lineup. I don't have the stats on me to back it up, but I would be surprised if young hitters aren't more durable than old hitters.

Yes, I hope they acquire more depth. It's why I'm so upset they're not going after Kim, didn't go after Matt Diaz, not trying to get Choi, etc, but there's still plenty of time left before ST so I'll wait until then to reserve judgement.

by Matthew on Dec 31, 2005 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

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