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In steroid suspension terms, that makes "two steps forward, one step back." But on the same day the Mariners missed out on Kevin Orie, which made me a little upset (but only a little), they went out and signed a guy who's probably going to be their best bench bat since Mark McLemore. The fact that he's left-handed also makes it a little more likely that we won't see Greg Dobbs on the Opening Day roster, which only makes things better.

It's a good move. Lawton is miscast as an everyday player - his defense in the corners is legitimately bad, and he's not real productive against lefties - but he can still get on base and hit the occasional mistake, and there's probably a 50/50 chance that he'd make a better DH than Carl Everett, who signed for considerably more than a $400k base salary. As more of a spray hitter, he won't get the kind of Safeco boost that a guy like Raul Ibanez does, but he should still help this team win games. Lawton's only posted an OBP below .340 one time in his 11-year career - .339, for Minnesota in 1996. He walks, he makes contact, he runs a little, and he hits for a bit of power, a total package which pretty much makes him an ideal fourth outfielder. He also provides some much-needed depth, because although his defense is pretty weak, he can still cover for an Ibanez/Reed/Ichiro DL stint, something Willie Bloomquist can't really claim to be true. Throw in his incredibly low salary, and yeah, there's really no downside here.

Matt Lawton as an everyday player? Hells no, and I'm holding out hope that the team knows that. Matt Lawton as a bench bat? Thumbs up. Another few dozen little moves like this one and maybe I'll be able to forgive Bavasi for that whole Washburn thing.

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Oh my God
It was my last day at my current (now my recent) job and I had no access to the news.

WE SIGNED MATT LAWTON?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  The Mariners better hand out the same hallucinogenics that Bavasi's been using to the first 10,000 fans on Opening Day, myself included, because I deserve to have the same fun he's having making these crazy moves.

Good bench bat and #4 OF, though.

by Gomez on Dec 22, 2005 6:15 PM PST reply actions  

Bench bat, bench bat
please don't trade Reed, please don't trade Reed, please don't trade Reed.

by jtopps on Dec 22, 2005 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Seconded
Amen to that.
"It is always darkest before the dawn ... which makes it the perfect time to steal your neighbor's sports section."

by Jim Thomsen on Dec 22, 2005 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Thirded.
And it wouldn't hurt to give a little pressure on Reed, to know that there are viable options off the bench (if not in the field).

by rtang on Dec 22, 2005 9:16 PM PST reply actions  

He's a lot better
than Quinton McCracken though, that's for sure.

And pretty much everything on our bench last year.

It hurts Bohn's ch ances of making the big club, but I like the signing for sure. A decent player for $400000 is hard to come by on the free agent market (excluding minor league free agents)

by Corco on Dec 22, 2005 9:59 PM PST reply actions  

Bavasi comments
"Matt is a solid left-handed hitter and base stealer who will provide us with depth and flexibility," Bavasi said. "He can help us in a variety of roles, including the ability to play all three outfield positions."

"There is a lot of interest in Reed from other clubs, including us," Bavasi said.

I really wish Bavasi would just tells us if plans on trading Reed or keeping just so I can get some sleep

http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051222&content_id=1286837& vkey=news_sea&fext=.jsp&c_id=sea

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 22, 2005 10:05 PM PST reply actions  

Now....
...why would Bavasi lay his cards out on the table? Just because he did it in the past doesn't mean that it's still a stupid move....

by rtang on Dec 22, 2005 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Feckin...
Incredible! Hey, is Reggie Sanders still available?
"the dumbest player I've ever met." --Larry Bowa, on Vincente Padilla

by AgentProvocateur @ Lookout Landing on Dec 22, 2005 10:21 PM PST reply actions  

yes but not for long
reportedly on the verge of a 2yr 10mil contract with the Royals.

by MfaninAlaska on Dec 22, 2005 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Meet the new Stan Javier.
A tolerable move, and Jeff, the guy who's most likely going to make Matt Lawton start for a month is Carl Everett, don't you think?

by eponymous coward on Dec 22, 2005 11:13 PM PST reply actions  

Stan was a cog...
in a well oiled machine. Lawton is a spare tire on a jalopy.
"the dumbest player I've ever met." --Larry Bowa, on Vincente Padilla

by AgentProvocateur @ Lookout Landing on Dec 22, 2005 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Stan Javier vs Matt Lawton
Stan Javier
Career  AVG  OBP SLG  OPS
       .269 .345 .363 .708

Matt Lawton
Career  AVG  OBP SLG  OPS
       .267 .368 .418 .786

Lawton has been a starting outfielder most of his career save the end of last year...not so for Stan of sainted memory. His Pittsburgh line was fine.  He's probably not an everyday cf or rf at this stage but even with his arm deficit would be an upgrade over Ibanez defensively as he'll get to more balls.

Trying to predict Bald Bill's behavior is like seeing how much Jack Kerouac went in for forshadowing in "On The Road".  When he courted King Carl, its as if he was not aware that Lawton was available as he's superior in all ways and is in shape.  Either that or he's evaluating players and choosing to add them not based on any meaningful performance measure, or for any kind of tools check list either.

Question, why is Lopez a better plug in at second than Morse.  Lopez is a terrible infielder and has not done anything at the major league level.  While Morse did nothing to discredit himself defensively or offensively.

by bigchefterry on Dec 23, 2005 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is Lopez a better plug than Morse?
Huh? Lopez put up better numbers in the minors than Morse did and at a younger age.

Early in Lopez' career, he was graded as an above average shortstop. I challenge you to find a single scouting report that says that Jose Lopez' defense is worse than Morse's. You've simply got it backward. Morse is horrible defensively while Lopez is average to above average.

And Morse did nothing to discredit himself offensively? Did someone forget about that 10-day suspension served in the majors and those two other instances of suspension in the minors?

I think someone did.

by JLC on Dec 23, 2005 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Morse does not even COME CLOSE to
matching Lopez.Seriously Lopez is miles away better than Morse.
When I was a kid my parents moved around alot.But I always found them. ~Rodney Dangerfield

by Goose on Dec 23, 2005 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Lopez
Lopez was a terrible ss at the major league level, the worst in all of baseball, range factor whatever, arm, positioning, angles to the ball...which is how he ended up at second base...where he still has no range...and has a problem with weight:
Lopez
Career AB    AVG  OBP  SLG  POS
2 Yrs  397  .239 .272 .373 .645

Morse
Career AB   AVG   OBP  SLG  POS
1 Yr  230  .278  .349 .370 .719

Morse was moved not because he did bad, Betancourt is a generational type of player, closer to Ozzie Smith than Vizquel...

Please don't tell me that Lopez is Miguel Tejada, because its not there...he doesn't have that kind of juice.

by bigchefterry on Dec 23, 2005 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

In the short stint
Morse had at SS

He had 12 Errors in 55 games that projects out to be about 35 errors in a full season. Don't tell me he is a better defender.

Also Lopez has power don't be suprised if he rips 40 doubles this year.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 24, 2005 12:25 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL shows how much you know
Ignorance is bliss eh?
When I was a kid my parents moved around alot.But I always found them. ~Rodney Dangerfield

by Goose on Dec 24, 2005 2:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Yikes indeed
Lopez moved only because Boone got kicked to the curb and we needed a 2B, and because Betancourt was much, MUCH better at SS.  Lopez would have been our SS right now if not for Betancourt (Pokey was only signed as a stopgap).

by Gomez on Dec 24, 2005 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Lopez
14 walks in over 400 PA...56 ks, terrible infielder, .272 obpct... weight problems...he can't hit anything middle away...

search the archives of USSMariner for dave's non-love of Lopez...

In terms of Morse, most of his errors were throwing and similar to him Ozzie Smith had 69 errors in his first three seasons...mostly or primarily due to throwing errors...you could look it up...

You guys loved Olivo too, for all his power...

by bigchefterry on Dec 24, 2005 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

let's take a step back
and look at a larger sample size. Lopez's minor league numbers are much better than Morse's, in terms of his projected offense. I am not saying that Lopez will be the next Tejada, but let's not judge Morse on the first-half of this last season. He was hot, definitely, but judging his overall worth on that small chunk of performance would be a mistake. For reference, see Bloomquist, Willie.

As to defense, why on earth, if Morse was a better infielder, would they keep Lopez in the infield and have Morse try to play Left field if he was such a superior defender?

by jtopps on Dec 24, 2005 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I've got a better idea
Why don't you search the archives of USSM for Dave's comments on Mike Morse's defense and then post them here.

Two words you might find interesting: Paraplegic and Hippo.

And as much as I respect Dave's and USSM's opinions on players, they are certainly not the final authority on all things baseball. They bashed the Ibanez and Sexson signings and were early on pessimistic about Johjima.

And what's with comparing everyone to Ozzie Smith? Is everyone but Lopez Ozzie Smith now? Seriously, Morse is simply not a good fielder, and there isn't a scout out there who would say Morse is better on defense than Lopez.

by JLC on Dec 24, 2005 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

For the Record
I'll take Jeff or Trent or Devin (when he says anything) opinions or anybody over at USSM  

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 25, 2005 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

What's Not To Like?
An excellent bench bat (by the standards of such players) and he's being paid like a bench bat.  What's not to like?  The person he's pushing off the bottom of the 25 man roster is a much, much worse player, guaranteed.

by NBarnes on Dec 23, 2005 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

As a avid reader of Fark.com this surprised me
The Lawton signing made Fark.
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1825132

With the headline:
Seattle Mariners, who had the most players suspended for steroids last season, sign a guy whose biggest claim to fame is being suspended for steroids

Obviously submitter is an asshat who knows little about baseball.

Fark generally has a East Coast Bias
//Even though Drew lives on teh west coast?
/
/Yeah slashies!

When I was a kid my parents moved around alot.But I always found them. ~Rodney Dangerfield

by Goose on Dec 24, 2005 2:08 AM PST reply actions  

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